Final Authority and Final Canonization

[Guest]

.... The question is do you have scripture?

The

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160

Question Is

Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Psalms 119:11

Do You Have Faith

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6

And What Is Your Purpose In Life

He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. Luke 11:23

And Are You Teachable

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

Or Not

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:1-7

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Believe

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16

And Be Blessed Beloved

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:1

Love, Joe

[OneLight]

KJ Only-ism is not allowed to be taught. If it is the intentions of the OP to discuss different versions, do so without condemnation or those who do not agree with your stance.

[gdemoss]

My final authority is God himself.

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

2Cr 10:18 For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.

Mar 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with [them], and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

If I am doing it right, then God will make sure that those who I witness too know that he approves of my words.

[Jayyycuuup]

The topic is final authority and final canonization.

The question is do you have scripture ?

Please answer the question and state your theory of final authority

and final canonization.

Define "canonization" because that word has multiple meanings.

Next, define your interpretation of "authority," because if your using this as I think you are, then make no mistake,only God is Holy.

[JTC]

If the KJV of the Bible was the only translation there was, I would have never read it. I'd still be believing in God and Jesus, but I wouldn't know much about why I believe what I do. I have nothing against the KJV, I just have a very hard time understanding that Old English that KJ is written in.

I also never looked into what canon means, or canonization. I just googled it, and just from the Google hits, canonization doesn't seem to mean what I thought. I thought it was a word meaning these are the writing we believe were of God.

I guess to a certain extant I have simple faith more than I thought. I think sometimes simple faith is the best way. Jesus must have thought so too. I think that was why He said we need to come to Him as children.

[1peterlight]

he is actually on another forum and I believe is saying from this same thread on other forum that KJV is the one and only.

[makahiya117]

Welcome to the board. What is your question, you didn't ask a question.

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While I posted the above you added 2 more posts.

I don't understand your question?

All the various translations are much more similar than dissimilar. Especially when compared to Holy books of other religions. I won't say which one, but a very well known Eastern Holy book that's been translated into English, has such wide discrepancies from 1 translation to another, that it seemed like a different book. I have not found this to be true of the Bible. I think we can rely on it no matter which translation is used.

The question is do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?

[makahiya117]

The topic is final authority and final canonization.

The question is do you have scripture ?

Please answer the question and state your theory of final authority

and final canonization.

final canonization.

Please explain what this means to you?

I explained what I mean in my opening statement.

Do you have scripture given by inspiration of God ?

[makahiya117]

Welcome to the board. What is your question, you didn't ask a question.

Yes, they did.

The topic is final authority and final canonization.

The question is do you have scripture ?

Please answer the question and state your theory of final authority

and final canonization.

In their previous post they stated things like;

#1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe only the original manuscripts were given by inspiration of God. There are no original manuscripts

KJV But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness,

nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

#2. You cannot honestly say "the bible" or "all bibles"

are given by inspiration of God.There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Greek, Syrian, Latin, German, English,

French, Spanish, etc. bibles which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

#3. You cannot honestly say "the Greek N.T." or "all N.T. Greek texts"

are given by inspiration of God. There are over 24 reconstructed (Christian, Catholic, Cult) N.T. Greek texts

which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

#4. All KJV Holy Bibles are editions of the 1611 KJV first edition.

While the 1769 KJV Holy Bible standardized spelling, corrected printer’s errors

and is the select text today, the text of the AV 1611 KJV first edition remains

the principal canon authority of Holy Scripture.

There were no manuscript revisions of the 1611 KJV until the 1881 RV

(Revised Version), only spelling, measurements and punctuation editions.

KJV For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God:

but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

#5 . KJV Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

The human finger prints (typographical errors, spelling errors, missing words, etc.)

further document the testaments and covenants between God and man.

The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority

and final canonization (books and words). The dynamic Purified Text Theory supports the Record Theory, demonstrated categorically and conclusively

in the manuscript evidence, bible canonization, bible doctrine,

billions of bibles and computational linguistics.

They are questioning the authority of the bible. And, if I understand them correctly, they do not believe the bible as we have it today is 'authorative'. The question as I see it is, do you believe in the authority of the bible. Divinely inspired, written by God, or do you believe the Record Theory.

Is the bible the final authority here on earth? They are asking if you have the final authority (scripture) or not. Is scripture (the bible) authoritive?

(I have edited out the abusive language...please be a little circumspect in your exchanges...thanks. Zazal/Botz)

There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult)

Greek, Syrian, Latin, German, English, French, Spanish, etc., Bibles

which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

Additionally, over 6 billion Bibles have been printed.

[makahiya117]

KJ Only-ism is not allowed to be taught. If it is the intentions of the OP to discuss different versions, do so without condemnation or those who do not agree with your stance.

I am not a KJV Only or an Original Only.

KJV Only Christians are elementary bible believers .

KJV 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,

and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,

for instruction in righteousness:

Original Only Christians are simple.

There are no original manuscripts.