firestormx Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,113 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 442 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/06/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/17/1975 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Are we all just playing semantic games? If you couldn't see anything, then she was covered by something. Her shirt? Her baby? Her arms? If you can't see anything, they are covered. This is baffling me. Clearly the people who oppose breastfeeding uncovered... define uncovered as "visible"? When I think "cover", I think blanket or smock. Me too before this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestormx Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,113 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 442 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/06/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/17/1975 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Oh wow. Thank you Joseph for posting. I SO appreciate your teachable spirit! To clarify, people gain trust when they are transparent and I believe, honest, as you have been. I appreciate the inner struggle you have presented. God bless you also! I don't know seven, I guess the way I look at things from my point of view is this. I can get corrected when I step in front of Christ on judgment day or I can let him correct me now. Since I see those IMO as my only 2 choices, and 1 or the other is going to happen. Then, I think I would rather be corrected now. Even if it's 500 times a day, it's better than waiting until judgment day to be corrected. That's one of my prayers that I pray often from the heart. Correct me now Lord Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaparticle Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,363 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 403 Days Won: 5 Joined: 08/01/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 this has nothing to do with 'morals' or 'modesty'. It's entirely a cultural standard. Clearly feeding a baby is a nonsexual action so it's hard for me to begin to see what the problem is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,247 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,658 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 So what does God think of breastfeeding? He created breasts for the purpose of feeding babies, whether they are human, feline or canine, all mammels are provided breasts to feed infants. That is how mammals are distinguished. I even remember seeing a movie of a whale breast feeding. Thought it was remarkable. It is an act of bonding and nurturing. Babies are even born with a rooting reflex that causes them to turn their heads in search of milk when their cheeks are touched. It is as basic as mankind itself. However, satan manages to pervert everything that God has said "It is good". I see it the responsibility of the offended person to overcome their perverse thinking and to change rather than the responsibility of person doing what God has always intended. Do you also think the cat should cover herself when nursing her kittens? When a woman is nursing she also prefers it to be private relaxed moment between her and her baby; sometimes it is not possible. When I was in a restraunt when my milk "came in" I would ask for a secluded area to nurse, perhaps a banquet room that was closed off. Usually a waitress was very accomodating. Now, I was shocked and outraged to hear about a woman on a bus nursing an infant, uncovered, who had a 4 year old next to her. Both the mother and the 4 year old were smoking cigarettes! Then the 4 year old asks mommie for the other breast and procedes to suckle while holding a cigarette in one hand!!! That would make me stare. The age of the child, the thought of a 4 year old child smoking, together with his nursing a mother who was also smoking is a little more than I can handle. I hate to even see a mother smoking while nursing because of the possiblity of burning the child. This occurred in the 40s and was seen in a nearby town. Their accents indicated they were from the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Oh wow. Thank you Joseph for posting. I SO appreciate your teachable spirit! To clarify, people gain trust when they are transparent and I believe, honest, as you have been. I appreciate the inner struggle you have presented. God bless you also! I don't know seven, I guess the way I look at things from my point of view is this. I can get corrected when I step in front of Christ on judgment day or I can let him correct me now. Since I see those IMO as my only 2 choices, and 1 or the other is going to happen. Then, I think I would rather be corrected now. Even if it's 500 times a day, it's better than waiting until judgment day to be corrected. That's one of my prayers that I pray often from the heart. Correct me now Lord Jesus. I agree but for one thing....if you get corrected on judgement day, prob means y'all were not paying attention on planet earth....now don't whack me, and I don't see you doing this, but sometimes Christians think God needs them to personally correct others as, well, God showed them something...so, 'I'll just help out here" Hope you understand how I meant that...again, I don't see you doing that...but I think it is something some folks do. They take their personal application and try to make one size fits all out of it when God has already given us the one size fits all...what we do in that size, is between us and God Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 She was covered in some way . Sounds like a modest breastfeeding mum. No objection from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 So what does God think of breastfeeding? He created breasts for the purpose of feeding babies, whether they are human, feline or canine, all mammels are provided breasts to feed infants. That is how mammals are distinguished. I even remember seeing a movie of a whale breast feeding. Thought it was remarkable. It is an act of bonding and nurturing. Babies are even born with a rooting reflex that causes them to turn their heads in search of milk when their cheeks are touched. It is as basic as mankind itself. However, satan manages to pervert everything that God has said "It is good". I see it the responsibility of the offended person to overcome their perverse thinking and to change rather than the responsibility of person doing what God has always intended. Do you also think the cat should cover herself when nursing her kittens? When a woman is nursing she also prefers it to be private relaxed moment between her and her baby; sometimes it is not possible. When I was in a restraunt when my milk "came in" I would ask for a secluded area to nurse, perhaps a banquet room that was closed off. Usually a waitress was very accomodating. Now, I was shocked and outraged to hear about a woman on a bus nursing an infant, uncovered, who had a 4 year old next to her. Both the mother and the 4 year old were smoking cigarettes! Then the 4 year old asks mommie for the other breast and procedes to suckle while holding a cigarette in one hand!!! That would make me stare. The age of the child, the thought of a 4 year old child smoking, together with his nursing a mother who was also smoking is a little more than I can handle. I hate to even see a mother smoking while nursing because of the possiblity of burning the child. This occurred in the 40s and was seen in a nearby town. Their accents indicated they were from the south. Don't leave the continent then. It only gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 So what does God think of breastfeeding? He created breasts for the purpose of feeding babies, whether they are human, feline or canine, all mammels are provided breasts to feed infants. That is how mammals are distinguished. I even remember seeing a movie of a whale breast feeding. Thought it was remarkable. It is an act of bonding and nurturing. Babies are even born with a rooting reflex that causes them to turn their heads in search of milk when their cheeks are touched. It is as basic as mankind itself. However, satan manages to pervert everything that God has said "It is good". I see it the responsibility of the offended person to overcome their perverse thinking and to change rather than the responsibility of person doing what God has always intended. Do you also think the cat should cover herself when nursing her kittens? When a woman is nursing she also prefers it to be private relaxed moment between her and her baby; sometimes it is not possible. When I was in a restraunt when my milk "came in" I would ask for a secluded area to nurse, perhaps a banquet room that was closed off. Usually a waitress was very accomodating. Now, I was shocked and outraged to hear about a woman on a bus nursing an infant, uncovered, who had a 4 year old next to her. Both the mother and the 4 year old were smoking cigarettes! Then the 4 year old asks mommie for the other breast and procedes to suckle while holding a cigarette in one hand!!! That would make me stare. The age of the child, the thought of a 4 year old child smoking, together with his nursing a mother who was also smoking is a little more than I can handle. I hate to even see a mother smoking while nursing because of the possiblity of burning the child. This occurred in the 40s and was seen in a nearby town. Their accents indicated they were from the south. God designed breasts with a dual purpose imho. Read song of songs lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,176 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,906 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 So what does God think of breastfeeding? He created breasts for the purpose of feeding babies, whether they are human, feline or canine, all mammels are provided breasts to feed infants. That is how mammals are distinguished. I even remember seeing a movie of a whale breast feeding. Thought it was remarkable. It is an act of bonding and nurturing. Babies are even born with a rooting reflex that causes them to turn their heads in search of milk when their cheeks are touched. It is as basic as mankind itself. However, satan manages to pervert everything that God has said "It is good". I see it the responsibility of the offended person to overcome their perverse thinking and to change rather than the responsibility of person doing what God has always intended. Do you also think the cat should cover herself when nursing her kittens? When a woman is nursing she also prefers it to be private relaxed moment between her and her baby; sometimes it is not possible. When I was in a restraunt when my milk "came in" I would ask for a secluded area to nurse, perhaps a banquet room that was closed off. Usually a waitress was very accomodating. Now, I was shocked and outraged to hear about a woman on a bus nursing an infant, uncovered, who had a 4 year old next to her. Both the mother and the 4 year old were smoking cigarettes! Then the 4 year old asks mommie for the other breast and procedes to suckle while holding a cigarette in one hand!!! That would make me stare. The age of the child, the thought of a 4 year old child smoking, together with his nursing a mother who was also smoking is a little more than I can handle. I hate to even see a mother smoking while nursing because of the possiblity of burning the child. This occurred in the 40s and was seen in a nearby town. Their accents indicated they were from the south. God designed breasts with a dual purpose imho. Read song of songs lately? I agree, they are an engineering marvel... some of Gods greatest work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,176 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,906 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 I know.... slap my hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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