missmuffet Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph If a woman can breast feed her child and not show any of the breast then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Are we all just playing semantic games? If you couldn't see anything, then she was covered by something. Her shirt? Her baby? Her arms? If you can't see anything, they are covered. This is baffling me. Clearly the people who oppose breastfeeding uncovered... define uncovered as "visible"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Oh wow. Thank you Joseph for posting. I SO appreciate your teachable spirit! To clarify, people gain trust when they are transparent and I believe, honest, as you have been. I appreciate the inner struggle you have presented. God bless you also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Oh wow. Thank you Joseph for posting. I SO appreciate your teachable spirit! To clarify, people gain trust when they are transparent and I believe, honest, as you have been. I appreciate the inner struggle you have presented. God bless you also! Amen. I agree with Sevenseas. Very interesting story Joseph... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Are we all just playing semantic games? If you couldn't see anything, then she was covered by something. Her shirt? Her baby? Her arms? If you can't see anything, they are covered. This is baffling me. Clearly the people who oppose breastfeeding uncovered... define uncovered as "visible"? When I think "cover", I think blanket or smock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsukinoRei Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Oh wow. Thank you Joseph for posting. I SO appreciate your teachable spirit! To clarify, people gain trust when they are transparent and I believe, honest, as you have been. I appreciate the inner struggle you have presented. God bless you also! Amen. I agree with Sevenseas. Very interesting story Joseph... Thank you for sharing that Firestorm! It goes to show that what we think we believe in theory, and what we discover in practice can often be very different. It's easy to get bogged down by theoretical situations only to have all our well thought out plans and ideas blown out of the water by the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 908 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,653 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,837 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Kind of a mixed position here. These kinds of things were part of what kept stay at home moms at home. And I am not an advocate for locking away anyone (especially not mothers) from public view. At at the same time I believe most perverts and adolescent males do not need the exposure tempting them (even in a covered situation it would be almost impossible not to take out the breast and put it back without it showing briefly. My mother would go to the lobby during church service for example if the baby got hungry or fussy because of breast feeding and the crying baby). At home she did not cover but we didn't think anymore of her breast showing there than her elbow showing. Another point is that covering / keeping out of view is a good social practice. One does not just go to the bathroom in public because it need to be done, they wait, seek a restroom or some private place in the bushes if away from "facilities." I do not equate breast feeding with going to the bathroom... only in that both require people to undress to do the deed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 16, 2013 These kinds of things were part of what kept stay at home moms at home. That only works if the husband does all the shopping and shuttling older children to their various activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsukinoRei Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 80 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/02/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 16, 2013 Kind of a mixed position here. These kinds of things were part of what kept stay at home moms at home. And I am not an advocate for locking away anyone (especially not mothers) from public view. At at the same time I believe most perverts and adolescent males do not need the exposure tempting them (even in a covered situation it would be almost impossible not to take out the breast and put it back without it showing briefly. My mother would go to the lobby during church service for example if the baby got hungry or fussy because of breast feeding and the crying baby). At home she did not cover but we didn't think anymore of her breast showing there than her elbow showing. Another point is that covering / keeping out of view is a good social practice. One does not just go to the bathroom in public because it need to be done, they wait, seek a restroom or some private place in the bushes if away from "facilities." I do not equate breast feeding with going to the bathroom... only in that both require people to undress to do the deed. The comparison between going to the bathroom and breastfeeding is thought provoking! Thank you for making it. I think that while going to the bathroom in private seems like a question of modesty, because the thought of doing it in public is embarrassing (at least it is to me), I think that the reason is not moral but is rather based in health. We, as many other mammals, are repelled by the sight and smell of the excrement of our own kind for reasons of preventing the production and spread of disease. Human disease abounds in times and places where excrement is not put away and kept separate from food, bathing, and general day to day activities. However, a look at the treatment of breasts across times and cultures show us that where breasts are traditionally not covered they are not seen as objects of sexual desire. Rather such a study shows us that the parts of the body which are traditionally covered become objects of desire, while the parts of the body which are not traditionally covered hold no such special attraction or embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestormx Posted August 16, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,113 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 442 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/06/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/17/1975 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Interesting thing happen to me today. I have been posting a lot a breastfeeding thread, and after speaking with someone about what happened today. I decided it would be best to post this in both threads. I've spoken out very hard against women not using covers when breastfeeding. Well, today I took my kids on a trip for the day to the museum of life and science in Durham, NC. When we where there, we were looking at a weather exhibit. Beside the exhibit was a small padded bench. When we walked in a went to the exhibit, my kids and nephew kept going around the exhibit. I noticed the first time I passed the woman she was holding a small child against herself. The child was about 18-24 months old. Maybe, just maybe 12-18 months. Anyways, as I passed the woman the first time she looked up at me and I just gave a quick smile and went back to watching my kids. 3 kids is a handful in a room full of people. Well, I said we went around the exhibit 3 times. The 3rd time around, I realized the woman was not holding the child. She was breastfeeding the child. I didn't see an inch of flesh. She was using no cover. I know my kids didn't notice because they would have said something, or asked me about it. Nobody noticed anything. While I said in my posts many times, that breastfeeding was ok as long as it was done modestly. I was pretty harsh about using a cover. God reminded me today, that I don't know everything. I apologize to everyone for my words and attitude. God Bless you all Firestormx Joseph Are we all just playing semantic games? If you couldn't see anything, then she was covered by something. Her shirt? Her baby? Her arms? If you can't see anything, they are covered. This is baffling me. Clearly the people who oppose breastfeeding uncovered... define uncovered as "visible"? Her shirt was covering some, but also it was the way she had the child on her chest and the way she had positioned herself. Her arms were cradling the child which also helped hide any and everything. When I think of cover, I have always thought of a blanket or something like that covering them, where the child and the breast and all flesh are hidden or covered. Yes, before this I defined uncovered as visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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