How would you know if it happened to you?\

[*Zion*]

Matthew 24:11-13

 

¹¹ Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. ¹² And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. ¹³ But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

  2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, ² not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ^[a] had come. ³ Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin^[b] is revealed, the son of perdition,

 

 

Knowing that the world will be deceived, how can any of us make sure that we will not be among the many?

 

[Openly Curious]

 

Matthew 24:11-13

 

¹¹ Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. ¹² And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. ¹³ But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

  2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

2 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, ² not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ^[a] had come. ³ Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin^[b] is revealed, the son of perdition,

 

 

Knowing that the world will be deceived, how can any of us make sure that we will not be among the many?

 

 

I think the scriptures that are found in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-28  gives instructions concerning the day of Christ return and gives us comfort also in having the knowledge of God pertaining to the day of the Lord's coming.

 

1 Thessalonians 5:4 - But ye,brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a theif.

[kwikphilly]

Dear Sister,

      This is often my prayer...."Let me not be deceived,Lord".....not now or in days to come.....in the Book of John6:28-29 reads....Therefore they said to Him,"What shall we do so that  we may work the works of God"and Jesus answered ,saying to them,"This is the work of God,that you believe in Him,Whom He has sent"....Now of course,they were speaking of"works"but the same holds true in any case...our Blessed Assurance is Jesus,our only hope in all things and it is by our faith & His abiding in us that will lead us not into temptation and keep us from deception....Faith comes by hearing,hearing the Word of God...

    The elect,the chosen are being warned of things to come and we must hold fast to Gods Word that the Holy Spirit will bring remembrance to us .....we are told to run,flee & stand in the Holy Place at that time.....I think the most important thing we can do is stay close to Jesus,if we are around for these things I believe our Shepherd will take care of His flock & lead us to where we should go & to Him..........Yes,Sister,it is my prayer

                                                                                                           With love,in Christ-Kwik

[*Zion*]

Openly Curious and Kwik; I agree totally, and yet I've seen it happen to people before my eyes whose walk has been even stronger with the Lord than mine.  What went wrong?   I know it does happen,but how does one simply give up the faith and stop believing?  Is it all about the flesh?

[kwikphilly]

Blessings *Zion*..

     Perhaps it is carnality,who is to really know except God.....sometimes(I think)the ones that we believe have unshakeable faith ,did not have that much at all......But we do know that the enemy is constantly seeking to devour who he may,he comes to kill,steal & destroy and if we do not put on the full armor of God then what do we do when those fiery darts come against us?

     There are so many times,dear Sister, I hear people talk of my "great" or "strong" faith & I do not feel so faithful,or as faithful as I think I should be....those are the times I know that I must resist the enemy telling me my faith is weak,,,,I have to armor up & pray,praise,worship &read His Word.....the enemy only needs a little foothold to gain a stronghold

      Thats why & many Christians disagree,we need not forsake the gathering(as some do)...we need each other also,Follow the footsteps of the flock & they will lead to the Shepherds tent......We are told the gate is narrow & many are called but few are chosen,Christianity is not just a battle...its war.............thank God for His Word,thank You Jesus-bless us Lord

W#ith love,in Christ-Kwik

[Fez]

Openly Curious and Kwik; I agree totally, and yet I've seen it happen to people before my eyes whose walk has been even stronger with the Lord than mine.  What went wrong?   I know it does happen,but how does one simply give up the faith and stop believing?  Is it all about the flesh?

I would have to say that we don't know if someones walk is stronger than ours. that is probably one of the first ways we can be deceived.

 

I don't know where my pastor is in his walk. I know he is an amazing man, and loves Jesus, is an awesome father and husband and that his life is a lamp. But I still don't know where his walk with Jesus is.

 

The quiet person sitting in the back of or church, who says little and I know little about, may be the rock of the church.

 

We just cannot make that call, and that's OK. I guess it is meant to be that way, only God knows our hearts.

[other one]

Openly Curious and Kwik; I agree totally, and yet I've seen it happen to people before my eyes whose walk has been even stronger with the Lord than mine.  What went wrong?   I know it does happen,but how does one simply give up the faith and stop believing?  Is it all about the flesh?

it starts with unconfessed sin that isn't repented of....  that gives the dark side a hold on ones life and it slowly grows from there.  Usually the kinds of things that are private that others don't see coming so it appears that it came from nowhere when in fact it may have taken years.

[Guest]

Once saved, always saved. Plus, your premise doesn't apply to us because the Church will be Raptured before all this. I don't need to reference the Scriptures as they have been posted many times throughout this forum. If you disagree, I don't care. If your saved, you will be raptured anyway. Praise GOD!!

[*Zion*]

 

Openly Curious and Kwik; I agree totally, and yet I've seen it happen to people before my eyes whose walk has been even stronger with the Lord than mine.  What went wrong?   I know it does happen,but how does one simply give up the faith and stop believing?  Is it all about the flesh?

it starts with unconfessed sin that isn't repented of....  that gives the dark side a hold on ones life and it slowly grows from there.  Usually the kinds of things that are private that others don't see coming so it appears that it came from nowhere when in fact it may have taken years.

 

 

That's so true - and you know pride will make us hold on to that sin all the more as we try to convince ourselves that it's not wrong... scary!  We so need to get this right!!!  Question: is there a quick fix for pride?  Something that'll tear that stain right off??

[other one]

 

 

Openly Curious and Kwik; I agree totally, and yet I've seen it happen to people before my eyes whose walk has been even stronger with the Lord than mine.  What went wrong?   I know it does happen,but how does one simply give up the faith and stop believing?  Is it all about the flesh?

it starts with unconfessed sin that isn't repented of....  that gives the dark side a hold on ones life and it slowly grows from there.  Usually the kinds of things that are private that others don't see coming so it appears that it came from nowhere when in fact it may have taken years.

 

 

That's so true - and you know pride will make us hold on to that sin all the more as we try to convince ourselves that it's not wrong... scary!  We so need to get this right!!!  Question: is there a quick fix for pride?  Something that'll tear that stain right off??

 

God has his ways  LoL