Bush supports cross-hating movement

[Ovedya]

Ah yes, Chuck Balwin, the religious Bush-hater rears his ugly head once again.

[Ovedya]

Incidentally, I did not say they were untrue. But again, it has no relavence to the man's faith! Were these people not qualified for these positions by virtue of their homosexuality?! That's discrimination!!!

No friend, that is not discrimination, that is the word of God.

Let me quote it again.

1 Kings 15:11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. 12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made. 13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron

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All fine and well....But it doesn't play out in a democracy established on religious freedom and civil liberty!

Maybe if you want that kind of religious government you should try converting to Islam and moving to Iran.

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Well, was what Asa did right? or not? You can't have it both ways. Either sodomy is a sin, or it isn't. If it is, then a Christian cannot tolerate it.

1 Corinthians 5:13 - But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Jesus didn't tell the adulteress, "You're free to go." He told her, "Go and sin no more."

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How do you not get that this does not practically play out in a capitalist society under a democratic form of government?

[Ovedya]

BTW: WhysoBlind, do you agree with the Westboro Baptist church and its pastor Fred Phelps?

[nebula]

Dear WSB -

Do you believe that if a professing believer is deceived in some area(s) that he or she cannot be saved?

I hope not.

No one would make it to Heaven then!

[Fiosh]

I am very skeptical when I hear "conspiracy theory" and "end times" stuff being spouted. I'm not saying this is that. But, it sure doesn't sound like a good thing.

You want to talk "One World Religion"!

I went on the Net hoping to debunk the original article that started this thread. I even went to "snopes.com"; but couldn't find anything. Then I went to the ACLC website and found the article posted below.

It's a bit scary.

You may check out their website for yourself.

http://www.aclc.info/

I could not find one mention of Jesus as GOD. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I tend to normally believe that this kind of stuff is misrepresented, but....

I would tend to think that Pres. Bush did not take the time to fully check out what this group stands for. I hope......

Fiosh

PS. You wouldn't find my Pastor within 100 miles of this group. Any Catholic (and I use that term in name only) congrgation that aligns itself, and apparently there is one, I would question whether they are fully in communion with the RCC.

PLEASE correct me if I've misread this. Really.

JESUS

THE SPIRITUAL FATHER OF REV. MOON

By Rev. Levy M. B. Daugherty

Executive Director

American Clergy Leadership Conference (ACLC)

ACLC Annual Convocation

Chicago, IL, December, 2002

I would like to explain some important points about how founder, Rev. (Father) Moon first met Jesus.

Rev. Moon began his ministry because of Jesus

[RustyAngeL]

go on the internet at www.whitehouse.gov which is the home page for the whitehouse and see if you can find anything of Jesus in all the Christmas stuff.....

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Funny, I just saw an interview with George Bush tonight where he said he was reading "My Utmost for His Highest" and talking about how he tries to "stay in the Word" regularly. NATIONAL television.

Why hate? It's very telling. JMO though.

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I agree, Just another Bush hater who most likely wishes it was President Kerry and not President Bush. I don't even listen to them anymore. They still haven't gotten over the fact they lost the election.

[Gerioke]

The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter who's in charge , anywhere. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There's only one character that can benifit from all the corruption. !

[Guest Bro David™]

[boblandis]

Before I get started I want to make this disclaimer. I'm not a Bushite and do not approve of everything he does. People are under the assumption the the Presidents job is making sure that everyone in the country worship the right God. That job starts with you and me. Either can he go around bashing other peoples religions whether they are right or wrong. That is unprofessional behavior for the person holding the highest office in America. As far as wanting a fully Christian President, we Christians need to get off of our cushy couches and bring the message of Jesus to the unbeliever and show them why we need a Christian country.

[serotta]

WhySoBlind said:

Well, was what Asa did right? or not? You can't have it both ways. Either sodomy is a sin, or it isn't. If it is, then a Christian cannot tolerate it.

So let me get this straight, it's the president's job to make sure that no sinner serves in his administration?

Yes, any sex outside of marriage is a sin, and I believe the president has stated that on more than one occasion. So does that mean anyone committing premarital or extramarital sex should be barred from any public service?