the bible

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Old

 

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14

 

Testament

 

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

 

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.   Isaiah 53:4-5

 

New

 

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23

 

Testament

 

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 1 Peter 2:24

 

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First Testament

 

And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am the LORD: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart. Jeremiah 24:7

 

Everlasting Covenant

 

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

 

Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

 

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jeremiah 31:31-33

 

New Testament

 

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Hebrews 8:10

 

Everlasting Covenant

 

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Romans 11:26-27

 

As I See It

 

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Romans 11:28-29

 

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Jesus 

 

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

 

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:8-10

 

Saves

 

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 

 

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:11-13

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Michael......

 

Ok, thanks.  So the old part was like here's what's going to happen and the new part is like yeah that happened like I said?

 

I asked this in a few places and you are the only people to awnser so thanks.  In jail there were some battles about christians and one of the fights was about how many books are in the bible so thanks for saying that.  I think someone said theres really over 200 books but only some made it.  Is that true?                  

Yes Michael.....lol,I love your simplicity & it really is quite simple,God Bless you! I am so happy that you are here,you see ,Worthy is not just some website or social media network......it is a Christian Ministry,Blessed by the Lord .....we gather here to give Him Glory in what we do........no doubt your questions are important & we will all do our best to help!

                                                                                                                                               With love-in Christ,Kwik
 

[Macs Son]

The Bible:

why is there an old and new?

I'm assuming that the context here is the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. There's a lot here that we could discuss but if it is too simple the difference may be missed. Conversely, if it's too long, it may not be succinct enough for clarity. So I'll try and cover it therefore by making the major points and hopefully be able to provide you some of the foundational Scriptures. I still would recommend an in depth study in order to truly glean all the meaning of it and get it into your heart. The Lord will teach you this if you ask this. As Jesus taught us, what father would give his child a snake if he asks for a loaf of bread? Even we in a fallen nature still know how to give good gifts to our children. How much more then will your Heavenly Father give good gifts when you ask. So certainly asking for better understanding of His Holy Word is a prayer He will answer, for He gives the Holy Spirit freely.

Essentially there were two covenants that God made with us;:

1. The covenant of Moses, which is the Law and the prophets and

2. The New Testament, which is the New Covenant, given by our Lord Jesus.

Now with respect to#1, the Old Testament and Old Covenant a.k.a. the Law and the Prophets, you may recall that Jesus spoke of this many times when He instructed the Jewish people and taught His disciples:

 

Matthew 5:17

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

Matthew 7:12

“Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 11:13

“For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Matthew 22:37-40

Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Luke 16:16

“The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.

Luke 24:44

Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

John 1:45

Philip found Nathanael and said to him, “We have found Him of whom Moses in the law, and also the prophets, wrote—Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”

But the Old Testament, which speaks of the Old Covenant, was broken by Israel. Yet still it was fulfilled by Israel's prophesied Son of David, the Son of Man. The Old Testament by prophesy also pointed them to the New Covenant, which back then was still to be revealed. In like manner the New Testament also points us to the fulfillment of the Old Covenant by the person of Christ Jesus.

You may say, "how did Israel break the Old Covenant?"

Well the Old Testament itself is littered with examples but let's just look at couple of passages.

 

the prophets testified against Israel and Judah and pleaded with them to follow the Lord's covenant yet they did not

"Yet the LORD testified against Israel and against Judah, by all of His prophets, every seer, saying, “Turn from your evil ways, and keep My commandments and My statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by My servants the prophets.” - 2Kings 17:13

But instead this is what Israel actually did.

“Nevertheless they were disobedient and rebelled against You,

Casting Your law behind their backs and killed Your prophets, who testified against them

To turn them to Yourself; and they worked great provocations."

- Nehemiah 9:26

So now who could hope to restore the promise of the Old Covenant that God had established with the Jewish people? It was still a mystery before Christ's coming but yet the Jewish fulfillment was clearly stated by the prophets. There was to be the promised eternal covenant which the Father would make with the Son of David, "King of the Jews". Now Solomon was the son of David by the flesh but the prophesy was not to him. Solomon ran off the rails with many women who led him away from God. But the "Son of David" was prophesied to come from the seed (singular) from the lineage of David and He was to be "King of the Jews", the very thing written on the Cross of Christ, who stated His Kingdom was not of this world. So the Son of David was a messianic term for the promised Christ who was still yet to come, whom we know to be Jesus Himself. It is therefore Jesus who joins the Old and New Covenant together within His own Body on the cross. He not only fulfilled the Old Covenant but He also provided the open way into the New Covenant, which has God's Spirit dwelling in us. No more would we ever need a temple made with human hands, for Christ is that Temple. Our temple though destroyed by those who crucified Him was rebuilt in three days when Jesus arose again in glory. We ourselves are now God's Temple for He sent the His Holy Spirit to indwell those who would believe in Him through His Word, and the word of His apostles. (Read this chapter in your Bible [John 17; the prayer of Jesus]. The New Covenant begins by God giving to us His only Son, the temple not built with human hands, and the Son of God in this New Covenant He established became the mediator between the Father and us who believe. Now as I said the Old covenant was the Law and the Prophets. Jesus perfectly fulfilled that covenant in Love and obedience. We can read in the Old Testament the prophecies testifying to the coming New Covenant which Christ established. This is all over the Old Testament so far too many verses to quote of the coming promise of the Christ. But the following passage talks of the promise of this New Covenant that was yet to come more than 5 centuries before its fulfillment in Pentecost.

 

Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

When Israel read though their Old Testament and came across that passage you can almost visualize the great hope and joy it brought. Their spirit was yearning for this covenant to crystalize and appear. They waited for the Christ to come with great longing in their hearts. You can almost hear the prayers of ancient Israel in the Christmas song, "O Come O come Emmanuel and ransom captive Israel". Yes, there will come a day O yes O Israel, when the promise of the Lord shall be fulfilled and God will live in our minds and hearts! And John the Baptist prepared the way for His coming and the new Covenant God would make with their yearning souls.

And so the Law and the prophets was yet to be fulfilled as God commanded and so Israel waited.

So how was the Law and the prophets ever to be fulfilled? It seems that when you read the OT its a never ending cycle of Israel turning to God only to fall away again into sin and even apostasy. But the Law and Prophets was completely fulfilled by the Son of David, Christ Jesus, by their true King and our Savior and Lord. As prophesied our sins were paid for and forgiven in Christ. He will remember them no more! They would be cast as far as the east is from the west. All that the prophets spoke of and that the Father had commanded of Israel was fulfilled in the promised Christ. He truly was and still is Emmanuel, God with us. Jesus was revealed as the pure and Holy Son of God that perfectly fulfilled the Father's Will. And showing us the great love of God He gave His life for His friends by sacrificing Himself for us.

For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

Colossians 1:16-20

So Jesus is the Son of God, the God Man, and at the same time He is the Son of Man, the very long awaited redeemer of men. As Adam was the father of all men who caused the fall and corruption of all men by sinning against God. Jesus, as Paul says, can be likened to the 2nd Adam, for He was sinless, pure and obedient to the end honoring His Father, ending the Old Covenant with the words, "It is finished". Out of love for sinful men He gave His life and took our sins upon Himself restoring us so that we, who believe, are no longer fallen creatures. Just as we are crucified with Christ we as well one day rise just as He did - and the new covenant will be fulfilled and complete!

 

And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.

1Corinthians 15:45-49

And so it was Jesus, whom the Law and the Prophets pointed to, who brought us the new covenant between God and Man. It isan everlasting covenant and union between the Church and Christ by which even the gates of hell shall not prevail against.

 

Matthew 16:1-18 The Rock of our faith and confession, of just whom Jesus is, binds us to Him as dearly as bridegroom to bride

He (Jesus) said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"

Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

The New Covenant isn't etched in stone but in the Blood of Christ the Rock of our Salvation

Matthew 26:28

“For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mark 14:24

And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.

Luke 22:20

Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

1Corinthians 11:25

In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

And as promised

2Corinthians 3:6

who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Hebrews 8:8

Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

Hebrews 8:13

In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 9:15

And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 12:24

to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

This is the difference between Old and New

“And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved."

Luke 5:37-58

May the Lord Bless you, Pat

Edited July 11, 2014 by Macs Son

[Willa]

In the New Testament God pours His Spirit out on all flesh, not just the Jewish people. It is about the covenant of God's grace, or undeserved favor . "God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us." No one has to follow as set of rules to go to heaven anymore. God instead puts His Spirit in us and writes His law on our hearts. He changes our desires so that we no longer want to do things that displease Him. He fills our hearts with love for others and forgiveness, slowly changing us to be like Jesus.

The old testament also tells us a lot about God and how He deals with mankind. He restored Israel time after time even though she was unfaithful to Him and continually turned to idolitry. She paid dearly for her evil, but God continued to love her and take her back. Then she rejected and killed God's Son, Jesus. This brought her 2000 years of persecution; yet we are told that God is not through with her but will restore her in the end. Meanwhile, He has turned His favor to anyone who will turn from their sinful life and receive God's undeserved loving kindness and forgiveness. God's mercy and love are so amazing.

[Guest]

I would add something to Willamina's post above, namely, to clarify that God does not forgive all people, all flesh, He gives His Spirit and His forgivness to those who have faith in His Son, Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah that the Old Testament predicted was to come.

 

About 2000 years ago, He did come, and die on the cross, and was then raised to life again, demonstrating His power, even over death itself. Those who beleive, will also be raised one day, to have eternal life with God, in Heaven.

[coheir]

In the New Testament God pours His Spirit out on all flesh, not just the Jewish people. It is about the covenant of God's grace, or undeserved favor . "God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us." No one has to follow as set of rules to go to heaven anymore. God instead puts His Spirit in us and writes His law on our hearts. He changes our desires so that we no longer want to do things that displease Him. He fills our hearts with love for others and forgiveness, slowly changing us to be like Jesus.

The old testament also tells us a lot about God and how He deals with mankind. He restored Israel time after time even though she was unfaithful to Him and continually turned to idolitry. She paid dearly for her evil, but God continued to love her and take her back. Then she rejected and killed God's Son, Jesus. This brought her 2000 years of persecution; yet we are told that God is not through with her but will restore her in the end. Meanwhile, He has turned His favor to anyone who will turn from their sinful life and receive God's undeserved loving kindness and forgiveness. God's mercy and love are so amazing.

Willa, I like your post but I am finding myself in disagreement on the forth sentence. Am I

missing something, I thought the NT laid down some rules for us to follow.

[Guest]

In the New Testament God pours His Spirit out on all flesh, not just the Jewish people. It is about the covenant of God's grace, or undeserved favor . "God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us." No one has to follow as set of rules to go to heaven anymore. God instead puts His Spirit in us and writes His law on our hearts. He changes our desires so that we no longer want to do things that displease Him. He fills our hearts with love for others and forgiveness, slowly changing us to be like Jesus.

The old testament also tells us a lot about God and how He deals with mankind. He restored Israel time after time even though she was unfaithful to Him and continually turned to idolitry. She paid dearly for her evil, but God continued to love her and take her back. Then she rejected and killed God's Son, Jesus. This brought her 2000 years of persecution; yet we are told that God is not through with her but will restore her in the end. Meanwhile, He has turned His favor to anyone who will turn from their sinful life and receive God's undeserved loving kindness and forgiveness. God's mercy and love are so amazing.

 

Willa, I like your post but I am finding myself in disagreement on the forth sentence. Am I

missing something, I thought the NT laid down some rules for us to follow.

 

 

The Big

 

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Deuteronomy 6:4-5

 

Difference 

 

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18

 

Is The Old Testament Was First

 

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mark 12:29-30

 

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:31

[coheir]

 

In the New Testament God pours His Spirit out on all flesh, not just the Jewish people. It is about the covenant of God's grace, or undeserved favor . "God demonstrates His love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us." No one has to follow as set of rules to go to heaven anymore. God instead puts His Spirit in us and writes His law on our hearts. He changes our desires so that we no longer want to do things that displease Him. He fills our hearts with love for others and forgiveness, slowly changing us to be like Jesus.

The old testament also tells us a lot about God and how He deals with mankind. He restored Israel time after time even though she was unfaithful to Him and continually turned to idolitry. She paid dearly for her evil, but God continued to love her and take her back. Then she rejected and killed God's Son, Jesus. This brought her 2000 years of persecution; yet we are told that God is not through with her but will restore her in the end. Meanwhile, He has turned His favor to anyone who will turn from their sinful life and receive God's undeserved loving kindness and forgiveness. God's mercy and love are so amazing.

 

Willa, I like your post but I am finding myself in disagreement on the forth sentence. Am I

missing something, I thought the NT laid down some rules for us to follow.

 

 

The Big

 

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Deuteronomy 6:4-5

 

Difference 

 

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18

 

Is The Old Testament Was First

 

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mark 12:29-30

 

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:31

 

I was thinking of other verses but those do nicely.

and here is one

Romans 13:8, 9, 10

8 Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

[Guest]

Amen~!

[gdemoss]

Why are there two covenants (testaments)?

One was to bring people into bondage. The other was to set people free. The Mosaic covenant was a means to an end and the glory of it would fade away as it would be abolished. The covenant through Jesus Christ was also a means to an end but whose glory wouod never fade for living a selfless life of service toward God and man has no end regardless of how things change. As for the law, there is not a law that could be written that would make a man righteous and therefore law is subject to interpretation and changes as mans needs change. Those things that would never have a law written against them are what we do as Christians.