Five reasons you should leave your church

[Wildstar]

I would love to go to church.  But unfortunately there are none around me I agree with.  And I don't believe like most people who confess to believe in Jesus do.  But nevertheless I believe what I believe. Which is...

His baptism taking up all sin - his cross judging all sin - and so all sin being taking care of once and for all - not relying on prayer for forgiveness but rathe his sacrifice - in other words faith in him for forgiveness - and i am without sin

I dont find many churches like that.  So for me I cant go to church.  boo.  

[OneLight]

I would love to go to church.  But unfortunately there are none around me I agree with.  And I don't believe like most people who confess to believe in Jesus do.  But nevertheless I believe what I believe. Which is...

His baptism taking up all sin - his cross judging all sin - and so all sin being taking care of once and for all - not relying on prayer for forgiveness but rathe his sacrifice - in other words faith in him for forgiveness - and i am without sin

I dont find many churches like that.  So for me I cant go to church.  boo.

If you believe in scripture, what is your understanding of 1 John 1:9?

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

[Tinky]

It's getting harder to find a church that simply preaches the Word of God. Too many put too much emphasis on entertaining the congregation with gimmicks. 

 

And I have a real problem with Pastors who try and dress "hip" and laid back.

 

Wear a suit for goodness sake. 

[Guest shiloh357]

It's getting harder to find a church that simply preaches the Word of God. Too many put too much emphasis on entertaining the congregation with gimmicks. 

 

And I have a real problem with Pastors who try and dress "hip" and laid back.

 

Wear a suit for goodness sake. 

Exactly....

 

Pastors are God's mouthpieces and their job is not to look like rock stars. They are there to preach the Word of God.  A preacher can preach, in an expository manner, verse-by-verse through the Bible for ten years and still not have covered the entire Bible.  There is more than enough material in the Bible itself without having to invent silly schemes.

 

Too many churches are built on entertainment.  There are too many who want to be the sexy, good-looking church.  To many pastors who want to be super stars when God is only looking for simple servants.   Numbers don't mean anything, ultimately.   The question for pastors is not how big and flashy your church.  The question is, "how many disciples for Jesus has your church made?" 

 

Pastor's have sacrificed doctrinal purity for numbers and popularity.  The Gospel isn't getting preached in many churches and God will write "ichabod" over their doors.

[Tinky]

 

It's getting harder to find a church that simply preaches the Word of God. Too many put too much emphasis on entertaining the congregation with gimmicks. 

 

And I have a real problem with Pastors who try and dress "hip" and laid back.

 

Wear a suit for goodness sake. 

Exactly....

 

Pastors are God's mouthpieces and their job is not to look like rock stars. They are there to preach the Word of God.  A preacher can preach, in an expository manner, verse-by-verse through the Bible for ten years and still not have covered the entire Bible.  There is more than enough material in the Bible itself without having to invent silly schemes.

 

Too many churches are built on entertainment.  There are too many who want to be the sexy, good-looking church.  To many pastors who want to be super stars when God is only looking for simple servants.   Numbers don't mean anything, ultimately.   The question for pastors is not how big and flashy your church.  The question is, "how many disciples for Jesus has your church made?" 

 

Pastor's have sacrificed doctrinal purity for numbers and popularity.  The Gospel isn't getting preached in many churches and God will write "ichabod" over their doors.

 

 

 

Bingo!   

[Hall7]

The church we build for ourselves inside our heart and spirit through the Holy Spirit is what matters.

[Guest shiloh357]

The church we build for ourselves inside our heart and spirit through the Holy Spirit is what matters.

Respectfully, that is not a scriptural view of the church.  The Church is the body of Christ, It is Jesus' congregation of called out believers.  Furthermore it is Jesus who builds the Church, not us.  Thirdly, doctrinal purity in the Church is of vital importance and cannot be diminished in importance.  Churches that are not doctrinally pure and preaching the Gospel are not true churches.

[OneLight]

Romans 12:1-2

 

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

Everyone likes to preach verse one, but when it comes to verse two, they back off, claiming that they are being like the world to draw in the world. They are quick to throw out 1 Corinthians 9:19-23:

19 For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.

To me, this passage does not tell us to become like the world to win the world, and is referred to in verse 21 when Paul writes "not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ".

Saying that, I believe the only reason one should leave a group is if the Holy Spirit is moving them to do so. We have no idea if He will use our faithfulness to draw people to Him for a closer walk and more truth. If we move on our own, His will may not be done, but ours will.

[enoob57]

Thanks OneLight that is clear, crisp and distinctly spot on... Love, Steven

Oh! I have to add it is the pathway to greatness in God's economy

Mark 10:44-45

44 And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant

of all. 45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered

unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

Matt 23:11

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

KJV

notice it's the gateway to ruin here... go figure...

Edited December 2, 2014 by enoob57

[missmuffet]

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5. Members (especially leaders) in the church are in grave sin but no one is holding them accountable.

4. The pastor is preaching blatant heresy.

3. The church consistently ignores qualifications for elders and deacons.

2. The church is not attempting to live out the marks and purposes of the church.

1. There is simply no sense or expression of love among the people.

Unfortunately there are plenty of those Churches around.