Will there be mansions in heaven?

[missmuffet]

Yeah, that's sort of along the lines I am thinking, bopeep.

Me too.

[Guest Butero]

Wingnut, we do eat and drink in heaven.  We will have access to the tree of life.  Jesus said he would drink of the fruit of the vine in the kingdom.  It would seem like we wouldn't need to sleep, but who knows?  Will we indeed no longer need rest?  I don't think scripture actually says.  Even before he got to a place where he would know death, Adam knew sleep.  I think that is just an assumption we make, so I am not going to say one way or the other.  Who is to say we couldn't use our own dwelling place in heaven?  Why do we assume we suddenly wouldn't have any private moments for all eternity?  I think there is a lot of speculation in your post, but I know for a fact people will eat and drink, even with a spiritual body. 

[missmuffet]

Why are so many shocked that they will not have a mansion in heaven?Does it matter?

[wingnut-]

Wingnut, we do eat and drink in heaven.  We will have access to the tree of life.  Jesus said he would drink of the fruit of the vine in the kingdom.  It would seem like we wouldn't need to sleep, but who knows?  Will we indeed no longer need rest?  I don't think scripture actually says.  Even before he got to a place where he would know death, Adam knew sleep.  I think that is just an assumption we make, so I am not going to say one way or the other.  Who is to say we couldn't use our own dwelling place in heaven?  Why do we assume we suddenly wouldn't have any private moments for all eternity?  I think there is a lot of speculation in your post, but I know for a fact people will eat and drink, even with a spiritual body. 

 

 

Hello Butero,

 

I didn't say we wouldn't eat in heaven, I said we wouldn't eat as we do now.  I don't disagree that some of these things are speculative, but are we given any reason to believe that angels need sleep or rest?  According to scripture, when we receive our glorified bodies we will be like them in that regard, and I am unaware of them sleeping.  That doesn't mean they don't rest of course, but if our rest is in Him, wouldn't that be the same for them?  I think the main point is found in what Paul wrote in II Corinthians, our eternal home is the glorified body. 

[Guest shiloh357]

Everything about heaven that the Bible reveals to us shows the saints around the throne praising God.   Heaven is not going to be the way we imagine it because we have no point of reference for what it is going to be like.   Our finite minds picture heaven as a place  that relates to our experience in this life.  Heaven will be beyond that.

[Kan]

The thoughts about heaven and mansions in this thread are swinging from left to right, from real to surreal, from measurable to immeasurable, from physical to etherical.

 

The fact is that the Bible provides many dimensions with actual measurements, and a lot of detail about heaven, does not suggest any ignorance or gullibility about our new home at all, but rather provides the frame work for our desires and imaginations, and thoughtful applications of what God has given us on earth  - as a faint reminder and reflection of a Creator who loves harmony and beauty.

 

For too long people have been satisfied with a scant knowledge of what the Bible actually says about heaven. 

The reason details are provided in the Bible is to guard us against spiritualism which seeks to devalue and obliterate the realities of heaven, and especially its vital connection to earth, provided by the ministry of the angels and so forth.

 

Some would argue that the dimensions are just symbolic, then where do we stop with symbolism?

 

The same could be said about our heavenly abode, is it just a symbol of our bodies?

 

Did you know that there are actual measurements of heaven to indicate - how far the tree of life is from the throne of God, and even the depth of the water every 500 meters from the throne? That's another topic though.

 

So let's not be afraid of making heaven too materialistic, because the Bible does not endorse etherical whims.

 

"Eye has not seen..."

BUT "God has revealed them unto us by His Spirit..." 1 Corinthians 2:9, 10 >

[His Ambassador]

The Bible says it will be a mansion, and the word mansion is in the definition, so I am 100 percent sure it will be a mansion.  That being said, nobody knows what that mansion will be?  We don't know the size.  We don't know the appearance.  Only God and those who are dwelling in their already know.  I don't claim to know for sure.

 

Will there be cities in heaven? Based on what I have read in scripture, New Jerusalem is there now, but will come down to earth.  There will be cities on earth besides New Jerusalem.  Heaven is indeed God's abode, but the saints that have died are there now.  To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. 

 

The saints that have died are in PARADISE (a different place than Heaven) as is the thief on th cross.

[missmuffet]

Everything about heaven that the Bible reveals to us shows the saints around the throne praising God.   Heaven is not going to be the way we imagine it because we have no point of reference for what it is going to be like.   Our finite minds picture heaven as a place  that relates to our experience in this life.  Heaven will be beyond that.

Yes,we are picturing heaven with our human minds.

[His Ambassador]

I would like to say I'm surprised this conversation has gone on this long but I'm really not because I know we have trouble letting go of our fairy tales.  As I told you in my previous post if you want to know where we will spend Eternity read the last part of Rev. 20 and the first part of 21.  That makes it clear that our eternal home is NOT Heaven.

[Ezra]

I would like to say I'm surprised this conversation has gone on this long but I'm really not because I know we have trouble letting go of our fairy tales.  As I told you in my previous post if you want to know where we will spend Eternity read the last part of Rev. 20 and the first part of 21.  That makes it clear that our eternal home is NOT Heaven.

"Technically" our eternal home is in the New Jerusalem, which eventually comes down from Heaven. The New Jerusalem is presently in Heaven. So for all practical purposes the two are in such close proximity that we need not split hairs. Not sure what you mean by "fairy tales", but whether we say "Heaven" or "heavenly city" I believe we are all referring to the same place.  What we are NOT referring to is niggardly "rooms" in such a spacious city (which would volumetrically equal all the inhabited regions of the earth, since it is a cubic city).