Amazon

[other one]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Yes,that is what I hear Morning.It is stressful and time is essential.But you can say that many are free to leave if they do not like the job.Jobs are few and far between right now.People have families to support.They may look for another job while staying with what they have but it may be a long time before they find something else.I have found that managers and supervisors use this.They say "fine just try to find something else".

I guess it depends on where you live; jobs are plentiful down here even with the oil industry layoffs.  I wouldn't stay in a job I hated. If you have a family to support, of course, you have to find another job before you quit.  

Jobs are far and few between in my neck of the woods.My daughter is very well qualified and she has been looking for another job for a couple of years.That is what I have been hearing all around.Well,if you want a job at McDonalds or Taco Bell they are a dime a dozen.Head hunters are very expensive.

you are not likely to find a really good job without going through a good employment company.....   finding career type jobs on your own is only a dream about 90% of the time.       What kind of experience does she have....

[other one]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Yes,they know what will be expected of them when they are hired.The pay and benefits are good.

they had a good retirement program in the past, I don't know about now

[missmuffet]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Yes,that is what I hear Morning.It is stressful and time is essential.But you can say that many are free to leave if they do not like the job.Jobs are few and far between right now.People have families to support.They may look for another job while staying with what they have but it may be a long time before they find something else.I have found that managers and supervisors use this.They say "fine just try to find something else".

I guess it depends on where you live; jobs are plentiful down here even with the oil industry layoffs.  I wouldn't stay in a job I hated. If you have a family to support, of course, you have to find another job before you quit.  

Jobs are far and few between in my neck of the woods.My daughter is very well qualified and she has been looking for another job for a couple of years.That is what I have been hearing all around.Well,if you want a job at McDonalds or Taco Bell they are a dime a dozen.Head hunters are very expensive.

you are not likely to find a really good job without going through a good employment company.....   finding career type jobs on your own is only a dream about 90% of the time.       What kind of experience does she have....

Sorry oo I am not at liberty to tell you that.

[enoob57]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Yes,that is what I hear Morning.It is stressful and time is essential.But you can say that many are free to leave if they do not like the job.Jobs are few and far between right now.People have families to support.They may look for another job while staying with what they have but it may be a long time before they find something else.I have found that managers and supervisors use this.They say "fine just try to find something else".

I guess it depends on where you live; jobs are plentiful down here even with the oil industry layoffs.  I wouldn't stay in a job I hated. If you have a family to support, of course, you have to find another job before you quit.  

Jobs are far and few between in my neck of the woods.My daughter is very well qualified and she has been looking for another job for a couple of years.That is what I have been hearing all around.Well,if you want a job at McDonalds or Taco Bell they are a dime a dozen.Head hunters are very expensive.

you are not likely to find a really good job without going through a good employment company.....   finding career type jobs on your own is only a dream about 90% of the time.       What kind of experience does she have....

Sorry oo I am not at liberty to tell you that.

We have ways of making you talk 

[MorningGlory]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Oh yes, my son is worn out at the end of the day especially since it's been above a hundred degrees every day lately.  And you're right; I never see a heavy UPS or FedEx driver either.  They really do get their exercise on their routes.  They are well compensated and have great benefits but It wouldn't have been a job I would take even when I was 20.  It's the same with the Amazon employees.  They have to decide  if the high pay makes the working conditions bearable or not.  If not, they should leave.

[other one]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Yes,that is what I hear Morning.It is stressful and time is essential.But you can say that many are free to leave if they do not like the job.Jobs are few and far between right now.People have families to support.They may look for another job while staying with what they have but it may be a long time before they find something else.I have found that managers and supervisors use this.They say "fine just try to find something else".

I guess it depends on where you live; jobs are plentiful down here even with the oil industry layoffs.  I wouldn't stay in a job I hated. If you have a family to support, of course, you have to find another job before you quit.  

Jobs are far and few between in my neck of the woods.My daughter is very well qualified and she has been looking for another job for a couple of years.That is what I have been hearing all around.Well,if you want a job at McDonalds or Taco Bell they are a dime a dozen.Head hunters are very expensive.

you are not likely to find a really good job without going through a good employment company.....   finding career type jobs on your own is only a dream about 90% of the time.       What kind of experience does she have....

Sorry oo I am not at liberty to tell you that.

well, then I won't offer her a job...

[missmuffet]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Oh yes, my son is worn out at the end of the day especially since it's been above a hundred degrees every day lately.  And you're right; I never see a heavy UPS or FedEx driver either.  They really do get their exercise on their routes.  They are well compensated and have great benefits but It wouldn't have been a job I would take even when I was 20.  It's the same with the Amazon employees.  They have to decide  if the high pay makes the working conditions bearable or not.  If not, they should leave.

The heat would be difficult to work in.This lady I knew who worked for Fed X was really thin.

[missmuffet]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Yes,that is what I hear Morning.It is stressful and time is essential.But you can say that many are free to leave if they do not like the job.Jobs are few and far between right now.People have families to support.They may look for another job while staying with what they have but it may be a long time before they find something else.I have found that managers and supervisors use this.They say "fine just try to find something else".

I guess it depends on where you live; jobs are plentiful down here even with the oil industry layoffs.  I wouldn't stay in a job I hated. If you have a family to support, of course, you have to find another job before you quit.  

Jobs are far and few between in my neck of the woods.My daughter is very well qualified and she has been looking for another job for a couple of years.That is what I have been hearing all around.Well,if you want a job at McDonalds or Taco Bell they are a dime a dozen.Head hunters are very expensive.

you are not likely to find a really good job without going through a good employment company.....   finding career type jobs on your own is only a dream about 90% of the time.       What kind of experience does she have....

Sorry oo I am not at liberty to tell you that.

well, then I won't offer her a job...

 Doing what oo?

[MorningGlory]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Yes,they know what will be expected of them when they are hired.The pay and benefits are good.

they had a good retirement program in the past, I don't know about now

They still do.  My son is smart to look ahead at his retirement, 35 years from now.  It's hard work though and suited for the young.  They have quite a few women drivers here at the Houston hub.  That surprised me.

[other one]

I would expect hard feelings if the employees were sold a different environment during recruiting or at the actual pre-employment interview.  The article did not express how the employees arrived at such a situation.

I have always been pro-employer during my 45 years of working experience. Even though most of my career was in the Teamsters, I was only a union member because it was required by the company.  I can tell you that being a truck driver even with union protection, EVERY minute had to be accounted for, via a log book, computer, and some times both.  The pay compensation and benefits were such that the constant monitoring by the company could be rationalized. 

I once knew this lady who worked for Fed Ex.She said it was grueling.They had to deliver those packages on time and fast.

 

It IS grueling.  My son left a job as a financial analyst/advisor to work as a driver for UPS.  He makes great money but his job hinges on speed, physical strength and dependability.  Very few make the cut with them or Fed Ex, as drivers, and they ARE teamsters.  He says the salary and benefits make the high stress working conditions worth it.  If those at Amazon can't cut it, there are hundreds of people lined up to take their places.  I wouldn't stop doing business with them just because some of their workers say they're a bad employer.  These workers aren't prisoners and are free to leave. 

Very true.   There are NO fat UPS drivers that I have ever seen.  They are lean and they run to the door.  I have ordered books for my classes and the drivers are sweating and in some cases out of breath while I am signing for my package.  I can hear them breathing!  They have to hustle.

But they chose to work that job and they stay there because the job has something to offer them.  I bet they are tired when they get home.

Yes,they know what will be expected of them when they are hired.The pay and benefits are good.

they had a good retirement program in the past, I don't know about now

They still do.  My son is smart to look ahead at his retirement, 35 years from now.  It's hard work though and suited for the young.  They have quite a few women drivers here at the Houston hub.  That surprised me.

We have a lady that delivers to our house about half the time.....   she's really nice....   but then again, they all are.