Full Text of Pope Francis Speech Before Congress

[thereselittleflower]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

And you can produce no actual evidence of anything you claim.   All you've produced is heresay and quotes falsely applied.    

We have been over this already.

Do you understand the seriousness of bearing false witness against you nieghbor?  of repeating slander?

 

 

Edited September 29, 2015 by thereselittleflower

[Guest shiloh357]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said, nor is this comparable to sitting with the tax collectors.    This is about the fact that a Pope who thinks he is a Christian has nothing to say about the plight of thousands of Christians who are being slaughtered while the world does nothing.   And he never mentions Jesus.   He will never get that opportunity again, and likely no other Christian leader will get that kind of platform and he squandered it on a bunch of social and political issues.

[thereselittleflower]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said, nor is this comparable to sitting with the tax collectors.    This is about the fact that a Pope who thinks he is a Christian has nothing to say about the plight of thousands of Christians who are being slaughtered while the world does nothing.   And he never mentions Jesus.   He will never get that opportunity again, and likely no other Christian leader will get that kind of platform and he squandered it on a bunch of social and political issues.

I'm sorry Shiloy but I completely disagree with you.

It has everything to do with what you said.  What you said failed to take into account the purpose of his visit to congress and your criticism of what he said or didn't say is  a result of that failure. You seem to think he had to mention Jesus.   I don't agree.  I see nothing that requires him to mention Jesus every time he speaks no matter who he's speaking to or why.    All I see here are statements that grossly distort the situation and place false requirements on the behavior of someone else.  No one has authority to dictate what another human being talks about at any given time.   

The words of my friend should help enlighten us as to what his purpose was.   I did expect that you would probably reject such an astute observation.

 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2015 by thereselittleflower

[Guest shiloh357]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said, nor is this comparable to sitting with the tax collectors.    This is about the fact that a Pope who thinks he is a Christian has nothing to say about the plight of thousands of Christians who are being slaughtered while the world does nothing.   And he never mentions Jesus.   He will never get that opportunity again, and likely no other Christian leader will get that kind of platform and he squandered it on a bunch of social and political issues.

I'm sorry Shiloy but I completely disagree with you.

It has everything to do with what you said.  What you said failed to take into account the purpose of his visit to congress and your criticism of what he said or didn't say is  a result of that failure. You seem to think he had to mention Jesus.   I don't agree.  I see nothing that requires him to mention Jesus every time he speaks no matter who he's speaking to or why.    All I see here are statements that grossly distort the situation and place false requirements on the behavior of someone else.  No one has authority to dictate what another human being talks about at any given time.   

The words of my friend should help enlighten us as to what his purpose was.   I did expect that you would probably reject such an astute observation.

 

 

 

I understand his purpose and his purpose was wrong.   If a Christian leader  (a real one) had ONE opportunity to speak in front of Congress and the UN, there is no justifiable reason not to mention either Jesus and give glory to Him and mention and bring to the world's attention the plight of suffering Christians.  For a REAL Christian that should take precedence over climate change, immigration, etc.  If the Pope were a real Christian, he would have pled the case for the Christians sitting in detention (the real refugees) who came here to escape ISIS and were denied entry, while at the same time the administration wants to bring in 100s of thousands of Muslim refugees.   He should have asked Obama to accept the Christian refugees.  But he didn't.  He doesn't care any more about them than the president does.

Islam is evidently, the only religion that liberals and socialists will defend.

But the Pope is not a Christian and has no part in Christ.   He is nothing but a socialist/Marxist in religious garb, leading people to hell.

[hmbld]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

Agreed.  Jesus also did not live in an extravagant temple or wear meaningless expensive dress up robes.  

[other one]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

Agreed.  Jesus also did not live in an extravagant temple or wear meaningless expensive dress up robes.  

he liked fancy pedicures though.

[ayin jade]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

And you can produce no actual evidence of anything you claim.   All you've produced is heresay and quotes falsely applied.    

We have been over this already.

Do you understand the seriousness of bearing false witness against you nieghbor?  of repeating slander?

 

 

I showed evidence. I did not slander.

[other one]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

And you can produce no actual evidence of anything you claim.   All you've produced is heresay and quotes falsely applied.    

We have been over this already.

Do you understand the seriousness of bearing false witness against you nieghbor?  of repeating slander?

 

 

I showed evidence. I did not slander.

I think you will have to have evidence that comes from Catholic sources.

[Guest shiloh357]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

And you can produce no actual evidence of anything you claim.   All you've produced is heresay and quotes falsely applied.    

We have been over this already.

Do you understand the seriousness of bearing false witness against you nieghbor?  of repeating slander?

 

 

I showed evidence. I did not slander.

I think you will have to have evidence that comes from Catholic sources.

Wouldn't matter.  If you quoted from John Paul II to make the point, littleflower would dismiss it because he wasn't properly catechized.

[thereselittleflower]

Did you notice that the Pope NEVER mentions Jesus one time in this speech???

Did you also notice that the Pope NEVER spoke about the Christians who are suffering persecution and being slaughtered by ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, over in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, etc.???   Christians being crucified beheaded on a beach, burned alive, drowned, even little Christian children and the Pope doesn't even mention that.

This was a political visit, not a pastoral visit.

As a dear friend said to me:

"Him visiting Congress was like him sitting with the tax collectors.  Then he went to dinner with the homeless."

 

What did the phraisees say about Jesus when He sat with the tax collectors?

 

Jesus did not endorse a gay priest or put one in power. Jesus did not canonize a man who was known to have abused indians. Jesus did not endorse the teachings of a man who combined buddhism with Christianity. Jesus did not endorse global warming actions. Jesus did not call unbelievers His brothers. All of these things the pope did.

 

Luke 8:19 And His mother and His brothers came to Him. And they could not come near Him because of the crowd.
20 And it was told to Him by some , who said, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside desiring to see You.
21 And He answered and said to them, My mother and My brothers are those who hear the Word of God and do it.

 

And you can produce no actual evidence of anything you claim.   All you've produced is heresay and quotes falsely applied.    

We have been over this already.

Do you understand the seriousness of bearing false witness against you nieghbor?  of repeating slander?

 

 

I showed evidence. I did not slander.

And the "evidence" you showed was defective, deficient, and proved nothing.  

Evidence contradicting your claims was presented from the  Conference of Latin American Historians, which is a non-profit society affiliated with the American Historical Association.   

That evidence was ignored.

You provided evidence of a quote by a historian which referred to the gold rush miners and their horrible genocidal treatment of the indians, MANY YEARS AFTER Father Serra,  and your source deliberately misappropriated it and claimed it was about Junipero Serra himself.

You linked to that article as proof of your claim, thus passing on that  misattribution, that lie as if it were truth and fact, and never accepted correction.

And you are still defending it here?

 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2015 by thereselittleflower