What happens when "the law of the land" is unlawful?

[Guest shiloh357]

in this I am most flawed...can the congress and senate not overturn the law?? Be they willing to lose and election??

There is no law to overturn!  The Supreme Court did not make a law, contrary to popular consensus.   The legislative branch cannot overturn laws.  They make laws.   It is the duty of the Supreme Court to overturn laws based on their lack of constitutionality.

[*Deidre*]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

Edited October 10, 2015 by *Deidre*

[enoob57]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

It is God's Words about such that we should be taking notice of
Luke 17:29
2 Peter 2:6
Jude 7
Rev 11:8

[*Deidre*]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

It is God's Words about such that we should be taking notice of
Luke 17:29
2 Peter 2:6
Jude 7
Rev 11:8

True, but I was quoting the article. There seems to be this notion that legalizing gay marriage is destroying heterosexual marriage and family. It just seems like a weak argument, considering....

That's all.

[enoob57]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

It is God's Words about such that we should be taking notice of
Luke 17:29
2 Peter 2:6
Jude 7
Rev 11:8

True, but I was quoting the article. There seems to be this notion that legalizing gay marriage is destroying heterosexual marriage and family. It just seems like a weak argument, considering....

That's all.

I do believe that homosexuality is the bottom of perversion... A coroner in NY said within 5 min of examine he could determine hetero or homo... 

[*Deidre*]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

It is God's Words about such that we should be taking notice of
Luke 17:29
2 Peter 2:6
Jude 7
Rev 11:8

True, but I was quoting the article. There seems to be this notion that legalizing gay marriage is destroying heterosexual marriage and family. It just seems like a weak argument, considering....

That's all.

I do believe that homosexuality is the bottom of perversion... A coroner in NY said within 5 min of examine he could determine hetero or homo... 

But we all struggle with sin, and I guess just don't like to judge people. Idk.  I have wonderful gay friends and they just seem to try to be doing their best. I leave it to God, I guess. That's interesting about the Coroner. I wonder how he knows.

[enoob57]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

It is God's Words about such that we should be taking notice of
Luke 17:29
2 Peter 2:6
Jude 7
Rev 11:8

True, but I was quoting the article. There seems to be this notion that legalizing gay marriage is destroying heterosexual marriage and family. It just seems like a weak argument, considering....

That's all.

I do believe that homosexuality is the bottom of perversion... A coroner in NY said within 5 min of examine he could determine hetero or homo... 

But we all struggle with sin, and I guess just don't like to judge people. Idk.  I have wonderful gay friends and they just seem to try to be doing their best. I leave it to God, I guess. That's interesting about the Coroner. I wonder how he knows.

It is the savagery of the lust and the scarings upon the body! There is much your friends hide from you... that if you knew you would no longer be comfortable
in these friendships with the fondness that you have now.

[other one]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

I would dispute that Deidre...      First time marriages do not mostly end in divorce, and when you separate the Christians out the percentage that stay married for life is very high.        It is true that if a person divorces and remarries they are very unlikely to stay that way for life.    It's the people who get divorced and remarry over and over that drive the numbers to over 50% for all marriages....

 

I was very close friends with six couples in college 45 years ago, all were believers, all got married in 1970 and we are all still married with two kids and grandkids...  Most of my friends have only been married once.

 

[Ezra]

in this I am most flawed...can the congress and senate not overturn the law?? Be they willing to lose and election??

There is no law to overturn!  The Supreme Court did not make a law, contrary to popular consensus.   The legislative branch cannot overturn laws.  They make laws.   It is the duty of the Supreme Court to overturn laws based on their lack of constitutionality.

But in this case (and many others) it is the Supreme Court which has attacked the Constitution.  Since marriage is not a federal matter, no federal court has the right to determine what constitutes marriage within a state. And certainly does not have the right to establish sexual perversion as a constitutional right.  Indeed the states had laws against sodomy for a very long time. This is an attempt by a left-liberal government to encourage a left-liberal Supreme Court to make laws which are illegitimate, while turning a blind eye to the lawlessness of encouraging illegal immigrants, while releasing known terrorists and hardened criminals into the general population.

[*Deidre*]

I find this debate...idk, rather odd coming from Christian circles. Considering that heterosexual Christian marriages end the most in divorce, it would stand to reason that what is 'sabotaging the american family' has nothing to really do with legalizing gay marriage.

I would dispute that Deidre...      First time marriages do not mostly end in divorce, and when you separate the Christians out the percentage that stay married for life is very high.        It is true that if a person divorces and remarries they are very unlikely to stay that way for life.    It's the people who get divorced and remarry over and over that drive the numbers to over 50% for all marriages....

 

I was very close friends with six couples in college 45 years ago, all were believers, all got married in 1970 and we are all still married with two kids and grandkids...  Most of my friends have only been married once.

 

aw, that's nice everyone is still married. i'm not married, and never have been...and i'm coming around to the idea that it can be a positive thing. lol but, i wonder if for some christian couples, it boils down to are they really placing God in the center of their relationship? That's key, and if more of the faithful did that, I'd imagine the divorce rate in general would go down. But, you're right that the overall rate might be driven upward because of second, third, etc marriages.