Student beating,student arrested?

[OldSchool2]

I had numerous jobs in my lifetime, including a several year stint as a per diem school teacher in the NYC public school system, Manhattan.

One fine day I had a student who was disrupting my entire class, but when I tried to physically remove him, he clung to his desk like a clam -- so I grabbed the desk and dragged them both out the door.

I recall confiscating a martial arts "throwing star" from another student, and escorting someone to the subway when class was out because his fellow students had threatened him and he was afraid to leave the school by himself.

That was back in the 80s, but I can see fro the video how much worse it has gotten now that God has been totally removed from the classroom, along with all respect for adult authority.

 

 

 

[missmuffet]

There was a protest by the kids at the school because he was fired.  Evidently she was creating quite a disturbance and had refused orders to leave the classroom repeatedly. There is more to this story than we are being told.

The students, yesterday, organized a 10 min walkout of all classes in protest of his being fired.

 

 

 

I think we would actually need to be there sis to really see the whole picture.I have dealt with situations before that have been in the news and the news portrayed it very different than what actually happened.

[MorningGlory]

Excuse me?  You are extremely rude MG.

'Rude' and 'truthful' are two different things.  . 

Your comment is just rude and condescending with no truth in it.

Well I guess I will just have to own it then; truthfulness is often mistaken for rudeness. 

[archaeologist55]

as disappointing as this was to hear about I am not shocked nor surprised that it took place. In my career as a teacher, the students had to worry about teachers putting them into the hospital not the cops. when it happened guess what-- the parents didn't sue or get angry at the teachers, they supported them.

[archaeologist55]

And the other part of the story is, that there seems to be a lot of problems with teenagers today, in general. Even middle school age, from what I read. (I don't have kids) The bigger problem is why are these kids acting out and refusing authority? Maybe because mom is too busy with her dating life and so is dad. Mom and dad aren't together, so these kids are angry, and have no place to vent their anger. Not making excuses, but assaulting kids, dragging them physically out of classrooms and not getting them REAL help ...only compounds the problem. There's definitely a problem with kids and anger these days, and it comes from their home life, me thinks. It's just very sad. People want to blame this 14 yr old girl and give the cop who is an adult, a pass? No. He was wrong. She was wrong too, but she is only 14 and clearly troubled. I have more compassion for her, than I do an adult male who should know better than to have treated her that way. 

Actually part of the problem came when the west removed corporal punishment and teacher authority from the schools. The Philippines is experiencing this problem right now and so was South Korea when they removed corporal punishment but unlike the Philippines and the West, South Korea rectified the problem by re-instating CP.

Another part of the problem came when the education offices gave students more rights than the teachers, whereby the ended any effectiveness the teachers had.  In Korea the only time the cops were called was when the students committed an actual crime, the homeroom teachers dealt with the problems. By relying on the police to handle these students all the staff and education boards are saying to the students is that they are incapable of handling problems.

To answer your initial question, it is because kids know that they can get away with it and that their teachers and parents are handcuffed in disciplining them. We saw the rise of abuse of teachers when CP was removed and too many rights given to the students. A lot also depended upon the instructions given to the students by their parents. We had a boy whose parents told him that he did not have to listen to any teacher, so when he was disciplined for disturbing the class, he would just get up and walk out of the classroom ignoring the teacher.

Just so you know, the cop went too far and let his emotions dictate his actions and influence his judgment instead of behaving like a wise adult but then what is expected from cops is often equal to the lowest common denominator not wise judgment.

 

Edited November 5, 2015 by archaeologist55

[AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

No one I think approves of what the Police Officer did, but things have swung the opposite way in extreme.   A man laughed and told me that if this happened to him,  the police would have been the least of his worries as his own Father would have killed him (figure of speech) when he got home upon learning of the incident if the Police were called to deal with him.  He would have been severely punished, had a curfew, been on probation by his parents, & been made to make amends to his teacher and classmates. There is wisdom in raising up a disciplined and well loved child. I pray this all works out by God's plan and someone intercedes in a positive way in this child's life and maybe can also tell her about the hope there is in Christ.

Ben Carson had a biographical movie made about his life 2009 about being raised by a single mother and how he was an angry child with a propensity for violence and how God turned his life around. It's called "Gifted Hands" with Cuba Gooding Jr. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1295085/  Saw it on youtube.

Proverbs 13:24

²⁴ Whoever spares the rod hates their children,
    but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

Amen. It's a shame that the child and the police officer were not " trained up as they should go ", or " disciplined " and taught the ways of God. This would have been avoided.