DO YOU BELIEVE ITS OKAY TO EAT PORK, AS A BELIEVER IN GOD ?

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13 minutes ago, Shar said:

Be Christ-like and not call one another liars.  

Christ actually called people liars. John 8:44. 

just sayin'

 

[SINNERSAVED]

32 minutes ago, Shar said:

You copied well.  Your failed to show how early Christians fled when Jews were being persecuted, as to no longer be identified with them and avoid the persecution.  How Constantine substituted the Jewish feasts for the pagan feasts, such as Easter for Passover, Christmas (Saturnalia) for Succoth.  The list of anti-Semitism goes on and on throughout Church history.  Peter was an apostle to the Jews, as they agreed Paul would be the apostle to the Gentiles.  Peter did not become a Gentile Christian.   We now agree to disagree.  God Bless.  Shalom

NICE ,.

[thereselittleflower]

25 minutes ago, Shar said:

You copied well.  Your failed to show how early Christians fled when Jews were being persecuted, as to no longer be identified with them and avoid the persecution.  How Constantine substituted the Jewish feasts for the pagan feasts, such as Easter for Passover, Christmas (Saturnalia) for Succoth.  The list of anti-Semitism goes on and on throughout Church history.  Peter was an apostle to the Jews, as they agreed Paul would be the apostle to the Gentiles.  Peter did not become a Gentile Christian.   We now agree to disagree.  God Bless.  Shalom

I'm sorry Shar, but your rendition of history doesn't fit history.    Your rendition is popular in some circles but popularity doesn't make it true.    Most of what you are repeating is myth - and the saying is true  - when the legend becomes fact, print the legend.    

This is how "history" such as Paul Revere becomes so called "fact."    It wasn't Paul Revere who made that long ride -  it was Israel Bissell   

Washington Irving provided the myth, the legend, and it was repeatead so often it became fact, and then it became history - even though The Ride of Paul Revere never happened the way it was told in Irving's poem.  Someone else made that ride.    

"The key to history is who tells the story," 

The people who have taught you your version of history are simply perpetuating myths started by others and so often repeated they have become "fact."  But they are no more "fact" than the "fact" that Paul Revere made that midnight ride instead of Israel Bissell.

 

 

[thereselittleflower]

Just now, SINNERSAVED said:

NICE ,.

Shar has failed to show what she claims is true.

 

 

[other one]

4 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

There must have been a very valid reason why the Jewish people were given wisdom to not eat certain things.

In those times, sanitary and preservation of foods were quite limited.

Today we can still fall ill because of unsanitary conditions concerning food.

 

But there is another point from which food  becomes less flavorful to partake in,

and that is how the food was raised and how it was cultivated or killed for the use of food.

 

If anyone bothered to go see some of the ways some farm animals are treated and killed for food,

that alone should be saying to your conscious something about eating these foods.

 

 

so are you getting to no meat....????

[SINNERSAVED]

18 minutes ago, Shar said:

Be Christ-like and not call one another liars.  You simply cannot conclusively state that there is a dual meaning in this vision when Peter immediately goes to Cornelius' house to share the good news with a Gentile.

I agree with shar, for there is one point being made with a example that ,one can understand

[other one]

5 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

Ezra, that is not true for did you say that out of being one sided with your view, for that was not correct to say , but I will answer this with , that everyone goes and hides behind Grace as a catch all for cover when bombs are dropping, why would you think at all that shar , or myself is going against Jesus , when we are Defending exactly what He is saying , you have this wrong and I have to strongly diisagee with you, and tell you what we are saying is of God, and it is in line of obedience to the law and the word of God in everyway ,

so please don't say what you did, unless you have really studied what is being said, here.

it is like there is no teaching a old dog new tricks, many people and long time believers are stuck in there ways and unable to open there hearts to see , what if someone else is right and you could be misunderstanding what you believed all the this time?

we are if not supporting the stand of Jesus spoken words,  and hold to the real truth of the study, why would other decide to throw this out , ?

I am going to say maybe because no one has come on with a view that really puts other beliefs in to a holding pattern that needs to be examined, please check out what we are saying and don't be so fast to judge it and toss it out,  thank you and blessings my brother always a pleasure to chat with you,  thank you

I did twice and you never responded..

[thereselittleflower]

23 minutes ago, Shar said:

Be Christ-like and not call one another liars.  You simply cannot conclusively state that there is a dual meaning in this vision when Peter immediately goes to Cornelius' house to share the good news with a Gentile.

Shar he didn't call anyone a liar.    You need to slow down and take time to actually read what people are posting to you.  Take time to digest it and try to understand what they are saying.

This is what he said.

If it is a lie that we can eat anything,  then God used a lie to make a point to Peter.

This is the natural end of the position that claims it is a lie we can eat whatever we want.

And this is what your claim has God doing.  

This is the point he was trying to make.

 

As post said:

  

19 minutes ago, post said:

if you don't think Christ declared all foods clean, and that Peter's vision reinforced this -- i'd just like to know how it is you think that God gave Peter a vision in which He instructed him to do evil, three times in a row, and reprimanded him for not doing it, in order to by metaphor teach him to do good? 

can you give another example of God instructing a righteous man to do wickedness, clearly and without ambiguity? as an object lesson? 

thanks.

   

God does not use lies to teach truth.

 

 

 

[SINNERSAVED]

17 minutes ago, post said:

if you don't think Christ declared all foods clean, and that Peter's vision reinforced this -- i'd just like to know how it is you think that God gave Peter a vision in which He instructed him to do evil, three times in a row, and reprimanded him for not doing it, in order to by metaphor teach him to do good? 

can you give another example of God instructing a righteous man to do wickedness, clearly and without ambiguity? as an object lesson? 

thanks.

Yes I can post, when God told Abraham to sacrifice His son that he would, have to kill him, but in the end what happened, ?

what do you think that was , it was testing , and so we all shall be in one way or another,

[SINNERSAVED]

4 minutes ago, other one said:

I did twice and you never responded..

tell me so its clear otherone, if you are asking me a question please tell me , I may have missed it trying to catch up with the posts it all coming really fast here on this so I apologize if I over looked ,your question to me