san bernardino massacre ties to isis

[Guest shiloh357]

Here is a way to understand the problem with refugees and why they should be denied entrance to the US.    Imagine you have a bag of apples.  You are told that three 12 apples in the bag and two of them are poisoned.   How many of those apples in that bag would you allow your children to eat??

[Guest shiloh357]

3 minutes ago, Davida said:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/12/sb-jihad-murderers-father-killer-supported-the-creation-of-the-islamic-state-he-was-also-obsessed-with-israel

SB jihad murderer’s father:  The killer “supported the creation of the Islamic State. He was also obsessed with Israel.”

December 6, 201511:49 am By Robert Spencer

“Farook Sr. declared himself in complete despair and disbelief over what his son allegedly did. His daughters, Rizwan’s sisters, told The New York Times that they had seen no warning signs.” He supported the Islamic State, and they saw no warning signs. Right. The Islamic State has repeatedly called upon Muslims in the U.S. to murder American civilians. The support for the Islamic State in itself should have been seen as a warning sign, if the family members were being honest about how “moderate” they are."

I am convinced that his family knew he was building bombs in the garage.  They knew darn well that he was not working on cars.

[The_Patriot21]

It's possible they didn't... But it speaks to a sad state of affairs when they're that clueless of what their own child is up to.

[1to3]

I saw on an interview on  t.v. the two relatives from the killers family ( a woman and a man) and listened and observed their verbal and facial expression to the questions the reporter asked them.

When the reporter mentioned the name of an islamic leader the killers refereed to, both interviewed man and woman blinked at the same time in recognition of the islamic leader but verbally said they did not know who he was... Then their way of expression changed from talking about the implication of their killer relatives to speaking of other things in the end of the interviews. To me it showed they knew more than they were letting on.

[Guest shiloh357]

33 minutes ago, the_patriot2015 said:

It's possible they didn't... But it speaks to a sad state of affairs when they're that clueless of what their own child is up to.

It's possible they didn't; anything's possible, I guess.  But I think it is more likely they did know.

[other one]

11 minutes ago, Davida said:

 Wisdom & Common sense seem scarce.

 

you won't find much of that among liberals....

[SINNERSAVED]

just  to address some of the comments to me, I think this is not even what it is too be , and that there is something really wrong here,   , when some one does not see It the way that this hostile ,bunch that has called me names and try to discredit me,  it makes it very clear of what really is happening, and  whats going on here, and how it goes, 

yes I use very generic statements and broad suggestions, for I know you don't want the truth or opposition here ,and if one word ,is enough to set this off,  but the attacks are very senseless ,and not right. and you know who you are, I will not address any more, non sense, any one that looks at the remarks, can tell something wrong,

I believe you are scared and are not trusting in Jesus , for we are not to be of fear , but the joy and peace of the lord, so where does that fit in to your explanations, ,

if you want to take on where our country is not , go ahead, do you think its going to be a different out come ? no , and do you know why ? take a guess,       because God the almighty is in control !      for if we are to stand in one common understanding and love , instead of hate, and  there is scripture for that,,

but with all your bad mouthing me, I did not see one scripture brought to light, so , where is the teachings of jESUS, WHERE !

we all have are feelings and emotions and tired of seeing the evil one run free, to do what is happening, but why are we not leaning on Jesus ?, why is there no positive, in all this negative ?

so don't tell me I do not know what I am talking about,

give me scripture where it says God told us we are on our own ,everyman for them selves , so lets do something about this from our own selves ? .for the world is coming to a end , what do you suggest we do, ? and what are you all doing about it ,instead  of trying to ride me?

come out and tell us exactly what we are suppose to do, in this situation with the borders and the refugees, we talk about it , but what are we personally going to do ? that's a question I would love to here ?

but I am going to forgive you all , yes because, jesus said its the right thing to do.. and I am following Jesus,

yes and just to let you know, I am not mad  at all , disappointed , and shocked, of course of the responses, in anger.

and I want you all to know this for the record, , God the father loves you ,so keep this in mind,     Jesus did not die in vain..

I am sure you know what I am saying.   have a blessed day and let us keep on praying..

 

  

[The_Patriot21]

Ok, we attack you? No sorry. See, here is the problem. Even if we are attacking you and don't want the truth, the Bible tells us to proclaim the truth. So if your speaking in broad statements and not telling us the truth then you, are in essence no better, then those who are accusing you. 

[OneLight]

SavedSinner, this site is a discussion  forum where people bring out their ideas so others can discuss.  Nobody can really discuss generic statements and broad suggestions for they lack depth.  From my observation, you jump into a discussion with these generic statements and broad suggestions and expect people to accept them because you say them.  That is exactly what we got when people voted for "Change" without knowing what the change was.

You see, you are not being attacked.  You lack of commitment is being attacked.  You want to be part of a discussion, then provided substance to discuss. 

As for being scared ... I don't think so.  I have known most of these people for many years and what they are doing is thinking the process through to the end and blocking the possibilities of allowing killers to take the lives of innocent citizens.  That is not fear, but wisdom and knowledge.   Those who are living in hear are those who bury their heads in the sand hoping that nothing bad will happen.  Either that, or they are somehow delusional.