Gift of Healing

[hmbld]

2 hours ago, Alan Hales said:

Of cause God will allow people to remain sick, He will allow what we allow, But those who believe God's word, Will ALWAYS be healed. It's not just a case of God's wanting to heal, Or His will, But He has sent Jesus to heal us, Just like He sent Jesus to remit our sins, We receive forgiveness by believing the Bible, And we should receive healing the same way.

Show me where the Bible says the gifts of healings has finished. You have made a statement, Now back it up with Scriptures.

Even if the gifts have ceased, Faith hasn't, and James says the pray of faith SHALL heal the sick.

Surely Paul believed God. 

[simplejeff]

and it was counted to him for Righteousness .

[Alan Hales]

1 hour ago, hmbld said:

Surely Paul believed God. 

What is your point?.

[Ezra]

8 hours ago, Alan Hales said:

Show me where the Bible says the gifts of healings has finished. You have made a statement, Now back it up with Scriptures.

1. Scripture says that some gifts would cease, and that the apostles of the Lamb are just twelve.

2. Healings and miracles were sign gifts -- "the signs of an apostle".

3. There came a time when even Paul could not exercise this gift.

4. If we had genuine healers in the churches today the hospitals would be empty.

[simplejeff]

There have been genuine healers.  And fakes too. No question there.

And as far as I've ever heard, the hospitals were only emptied once in history ((from old memory of someone's testimony;  no details nor references available )).

23 minutes ago, Ezra said:

...4. If we had genuine healers in the churches today the hospitals would be empty.

 

[Ezra]

Just now, simplejeff said:

There have been genuine healers, and as far as I've ever heard, the hospitals were only emptied once in history ((from old memory of someone's testimony;  no details nor references available )).

If no details or references are available, why post this?  Could be simply old wives tales.

[simplejeff]

By Faith, "the evidence of things unseen", for one. 

A true testimony , for two: "I once was blind, but now I see" "I don't know who HE was" "I only know I can see now, and I WAS BLIND SINCE BIRTH" .....

three: Someone else might know, for example,  

and four: why post so much unedifying, harmful error on this forum , for comparison ? ((far too much to deal with))

Notice that IF the 'churches' permitted healing, and if they had faith, they might see more healing, Yahweh Willing.

[Alan Hales]

1 hour ago, algots said:

I could say the same thing of you. If you really knew your Bible, you wouldn't really be believing this foolishness. In fact, I would venture to say that those who do believe in this nonsense only do so, because of their Biblical illiteracy and immaturity.

Like, your God chosen lot in life, you're not content and satisfied with Salvation (assuming you even have Salvation). you've been duped into believing that if you had more, then, you'd be content and happy. Like Lucifer, you're not content with being a servant of God, you want God to serve you. And like Lucifer, you are deceived and have become the accuser of the brethren.

So, you can give me Scriptures. Anyone can provide out of context Scriptures. Anyone can twist and manipulate versus. Anyone can pick and choose which parts of passages to agree, while ignoring and denying the very next verse in that passage. My comments to you are littered with Biblical references which I know you have glossed over and have not caught because of your lack of Biblical knowledge. If you can't twist healing, or money out of some verse, it means nothing to you and you have no use for it. That's why you don't see Scripture in my responses. It's not because they aren't there, it's because you don't know them. All you know are the twisted, out of context, verses which you have memorized to defend your "theology" of greed and mammon.  If that's the best your god can do, then you have your reward.

No, you disagree with me because you disagree with the Bible, and like Adam and Eve, have fallen for Satan's deception. You were promised things and took the bite.

You are foolish by saying the Bible is follishness. I have given you scriptures, and they ARE NOT out of context.

[Alan Hales]

1 hour ago, algots said:

Why wasn't the Apostle Paul healed of his affliction?  Lack of faith?

What afflictions..

Plus, If he wasn't healed, Does that change God's word??. NO.. NO.

[Alan Hales]

1 hour ago, Ezra said:

1. Scripture says that some gifts would cease, and that the apostles of the Lamb are just twelve.

2. Healings and miracles were sign gifts -- "the signs of an apostle".

3. There came a time when even Paul could not exercise this gift.

4. If we had genuine healers in the churches today the hospitals would be empty.

Show me where the Bible says the gifts have ceased.

Show me where the Bible says it was just the Apostles that did healings and miracles.

Show me where Paul couldn't exorcise the gifts.