Gift of Healing

[FresnoJoe]

1 hour ago, algots said:

No one is going to sue you for healing them....
However, you could be exposed as a fraud....
I think the latter is what I believe....

Beloved
You Very Well May Be Right
For There Are Miracles Going On In The USA And Around The World

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. John 14:12

And The LORD Will Not Share HIS Glory With Another

I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 42:8

And The Faithful Are Still Slaughtered

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:38

And Mocked For Their

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2 Timothy 3:12

Loving Witness

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Philippians 4:13

Love, Your Brother Joe

[FresnoJoe]

16 minutes ago, PaulTimothy said:

Something interesting I have been studying and developing....
is a theory I have not come across anywhere in my research....
This would be that faith is not the key....
the key is a total lack of doubt.....

True Faith

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrew 11:1

Is

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrew 11:6

True Knowledge

For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. Hosea 6:6

[PaulTimothy]

My theory is that being baptized, giving the recognition and making the choice to believe in God, the HS is the gift that gives you natural faith. Your amount of faith it has been made clear is not important, just that you have any, however your amount of doubt is what stops things from happening. 

[FresnoJoe]

15 minutes ago, PaulTimothy said:

My theory is that being baptized, giving the recognition and making the choice to believe in God, the HS is the gift that gives you natural faith. Your amount of faith it has been made clear is not important, just that you have any, however your amount of doubt is what stops things from happening. 

Doubt Is Starved And Faith Is Nurtured And Cultivated
When One's Spirit Is Feed And Watered
By The Loving Words Of The
Master Horticulturist

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

[simplejeff]

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1 hour ago, PaulTimothy said:

2 hours ago, algots said:

No one is going to sue you for healing them....

Oh, to the earlier comment, haha. 

Depending on where you are, historically, even the last 200 years, 

they won't sue you for doing that, but they may sue

to stop it from happening again, as much as is in their power - remember how the scribes and pharisees hated Jesus and did all they could to stop HIM....... ....

or,  they will pass laws to prevent it from happening again, as much as is in the governments power to stop you.

[simplejeff]

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1 hour ago, PaulTimothy said:

Well what if someone isnt healed? What if you expose someone with a weak immune system to something? Or come in contact with someone and carry it to another patient? There are many possibilities. But I have asked this question to people before and these are the answers I have gotten. I have recently been around miracles, I think it would take a lot more confidence to pray for someone in a hospital who you have to go to, rather than someone who comes to you. 

Something interesting I have been studying and developing is a theory I have not come across anywhere in my research. This would be that faith is not the key, the key is a total lack of doubt. The best prayers are the ones that aren't thought about, just on the fly. For me walking into a place that is full of sick people would bring an intial amount of doubt for sure, rather than in a home or a church.

What if ...   what if .... what if .....  

No,  I think not many possibilities.  Yahweh created all things simple;  man came up with many devices.((in error,in sin)).

Faith is the key, one of them.  Do not doubt, also.  

What's more important than both ?  

TRUTH.

1 hour ago, PaulTimothy said:

For me walking into a place that is full of sick people would bring an intial amount of doubt for sure,

Why ? ....

[PaulTimothy]

12 minutes ago, algots said:

Then, you just heal them of what you have exposed them to.

I don't think I recall Jesus leaving anyone brought to Him unhealed, because of their "lack of faith".

I think youre trying to argue about something that we agree on? Also no one is going to be as successful as Jesus, you wouldnt know if you just accidentally transferred something to them. And the faith is necessary on one of the parts, the healer gives the virue and the faith is supplied by one or the other, healer or healee. 

[PaulTimothy]

19 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

 

Why ? ....

Have you ever prayed for someone to be healed? Probably if youre a christian. What did you pray for? Your child with the flu? Grandma with pneumonia? Cancer in a relative? Maybe something in yourself? Where was it at? Church, or at your home, someone elses home? Going to a place where every single person is sick, finding out this one has pancreatic cancer and the entire floor is for encology, being around all people of incurable diseases, the more details you find out, the more you think, the more your belief fluctuates and doubt creeps in. Its best to have blind faith and pray without the details and leave the responsibility of knowing in God's hands. That's why.

[gdemoss]

I find it disturbing when people hide their prideful self estimation behind words like "your argument is with God not with me".

 Am I so arrogant to beleive I possess absolute perfect knowledge, wisdom and understanding pertaining to the word of God and God's ways?  I cannot be wrong so in my perfect understanding I declare your arguing with God when you dispute my interpretation of the written word?

 God, I hope not.

 There is only one who could ever make such a boast, Jesus.  Then after him such declarations came from men like the Apostle Paul but even he said that his words were not just words but supported by confirmation from God.  They came in deed and in power.

Let any man who claims such a boast of himself show the promise of God behind his words by declaring what manner of consequence will follow for withstanding him here!  Then let us watch as his words are or are not backed up by almighty God.  Or let such a one refrain from his pride and repent.  Let him admit that he simply holds an opinion of the word of God that he beleives to be true and lives according too.

As for the OP, I am greatly desirous to understand the gift of healing.  I would love to spend my days laying hands on the sick and halt only to watch them recover!  To give God and God alone the praise for his redemptive work in them!!!

My gift has been love.  Much love of God poured out on ungodly me that I can't help but love other ungodly creatures like me.

If you ever get to a place of being able to be in attendance of men who have this gift, I would love to come and fellowship wherever that may be.  Please give me a holler if it comes to pass.  I will fly out, Lord willing of course!

[Alan Hales]

18 hours ago, algots said:

I hate to break it to you, but contrary to the false teaching that you are a little god, you are not God.

No, I'm telling you what Scripture says. You're the one following after filthy lucre.

You're free to follow whatever false teacher and false teaching you desire. However, like God says in his Word "...from such withdraw thyself" ! Tim 6:5 (KJV)

1 Timothy 6:5 King James Version (KJV)

⁵ Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

I have told you what the scriptures say.

 

Edited March 19, 2016 by Alan Hales