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12 hours ago, Sister said:

 Revelation 20:14   And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Revelation 21:4   And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 

I'm with you on this one Spock.  Absolutely senseless to torment someone forever.  It would serve no purpose.  Death and Hell will be done away with for good when the earth is melted after the 2nd judgement. 

The biggest torment for those destined for hell would be judgement day when they come face to face with the judge.  This would be the most frightening event for anyone on the wrong side of God to ever experience. It would be all their worst nightmares wrapped into one, plus more they never thought of. God will definately give them a glimpse of where they are going as their sins are judged one by one. Imagine that feeling of terror growing and growing. It would be worse than anything we could ever imagine, and definately a place I would never like to stand trial for.  I'd say that's their main punishment, that torture of standing trial, the fear of being condemned, the pleading, the remorse, the helplessness, then after that, it's lights out.

May God have mercy on us all.

 

Good point, Sis.  These lost souls will be in anguish for more than 1000 years. I guess even God thinks that is enough. 

Goodbye, poof, gone for all eternity. 

Now, this is not scripture but just me talking out loud- this to me makes more sense with what I know about God. I can't imagine why he would want every single lostie to burn in torture for all eternity.  It seems to me even that has an ending point. 


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4 minutes ago, Spock said:

And who made you the final authority that decides what is gospel and what isn't? 

I believe it is called The Word of God ... in short The Bible :thumbsup: and I believe the nature of the rest of your post shows forth the error itself!  Love, Steven


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12 hours ago, gdemoss said:

Hell is eternal as in unchanging.  This is why so many people err in understanding eternal damnation.  

 

Hell (Hades) is thrown into the lake of Fire.   What happens to hell when it is thrown into the lake of fire. 

Do you not think it burns up to nothing?  Or do you believe this fire is eternal? 


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4 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

I believe it is called The Word of God ... in short The Bible :thumbsup: and I believe the nature of the rest of your post shows forth the error itself!  Love, Steven

Whatever.....


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5 hours ago, simplejeff said:

yes,  "exactly" what it says.

in english perhaps ? ( I did a search):

You searched for

"EVERLASTING" in the KJV Bible

 

91 Instances   -   Page 1 of 4"

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Everlasting/

As it turns out,

in english,

"everlasting" has different meanings.

Jeff, good research.  This is hard evidence that a court of law looks for. Thanks.


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5 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

The Bible says EVERLASTING torment.  There's no way to change, redefine or interpret that as other than exactly what it says.

MG, just try to open up your mind to see the word "everlasting" may not just mean what you think it means. Did you notice jeff's legwork he is doing for you and everyone here?  


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8 minutes ago, Spock said:

Good point, Sis.  These lost souls will be in anguish for more than 1000 years. I guess even God thinks that is enough. 

Goodbye, poof, gone for all eternity. 

Now, this is not scripture but just me talking out loud- this to me makes more sense with what I know about God. I can't imagine why he would want every single lostie to burn in torture for all eternity.  It seems to me even that has an ending point. 

Unfortunately, Spock, what seems logical to you, or me, is not what God has laid out.  We have no say it how this will play out but, if anyone is thinking that it will be bad and then just be over, think again.  God told us that hell is forever and He doesn't say anything that isn't true. 


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Just now, MorningGlory said:

Unfortunately, Spock, what seems logical to you, or me, is not what God has laid out.  We have no say it how this will play out but, if anyone is thinking that it will be bad and then just be over, think again.  God told us that hell is forever and He doesn't say anything that isn't true. 

That is the simple of the hermeneutic... :thumbsup: 


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1 minute ago, Spock said:

MG, just try to open up your mind to see the word "everlasting" may not just mean what you think it means. Did you notice jeff's legwork he is doing for you and everyone here?  

No, I've been busy today so I've not read many posts.  I can open my mind, stand on my head and sing Yankee Doodle but...it is what it is and nothing we mortals do will change it.


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On 1/27/2016 at 3:49 AM, Spock said:

I searched the word "hell" and did not find a thread so here goes. 

you might poke around in some of these In fact, one of those started by ezra, was off to a good start.

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