The ministry of discouragement and disunity

[*Zion*]

I cheer on encouragement and unity of the brethren.  What are you trying to do???

[Sister]

14 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Sometimes I wonder if we're so busy trying to be right and getting everyone to follow us rather than pointing one another to Jesus and His Word.

Zion

I think we just have to accept that we all have different opinions and see things differently.  I agree that the Word is the final authority, but we are all not receiving the same message.

I see it like this;

Remember the parable of the sower?  Jesus sowed the good seed which is the Word, and the enemy planted the tares.  The Word is truth, and the tares are lies.  God said let both grow together until the time of the harvest, then he will burn the tares and store the wheat in his barn. 

The good seed has already been planted.  We either water it, or choke it. It will grow, or it will die..

The day of the Lord will declare what sort of work we have done in God's field, if we have laboured for the truth or not.  At the moment this is how it has to be.  It's not going to go on like this forever. 

[*Zion*]

I'm not trying to create an argument, I'm just tired of disunity and discouragement.  Is that ok?????

[Your closest friendnt]

3 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

I cheer on encouragement and unity of the brethren.  What are you trying to do???

I am not sure that you consious  about the effects of some of statements, that they are Judging faith in the Cross of Jesus Christ, and his redemption for us, who bought us with his blood alone.

Are preaching his Blood is not ENOUPH?

I say that because you are adding other requirements, or when others add other requirements, you fail to see their faith, behind those duties they include.

It is not for anyone to say, that they practice their religious duties without faith in the Cross, believing that Jesus died for us all.

And if thing so, just remind them of their faith. You do see them celebrating Easter, don't you?

Leave their culture alone, leave them with Jesus. 

The right time for everything.

God Bless

 

 

[Guest Teditis]

1 hour ago, Thallasa said:

 

This is what Universalists believe , but it is not Christian .

You seem to have a hard time not reading into other people's post things that you struggle with.

This is not Universalism that I speak of but the Love of God, which is much extolled throughout the Bible.

As, Therese pointed out Universalists have an whole other belief system. that hinges around all souls will

eventually be reconciled to God... I don't believe that.

But it's interesting to me that you're doing exactly what has been brought up in this thread which is..

you saw something in my post that you didn't agree with and immediately called my Salvation into question.

That's a shameful thing to do... falsely accusing the brethren. God will hold you accountable for that.

But my question is this why do you feel it necessary to attack rather than question me about my beliefs

and explain errors in my beliefs? This site should be a ministry to help people but instead it often feels

like walking into the inquisitors dungeons for judgement.

 

[Guest Thallasa]

42 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Sometimes I wonder if we're so busy trying to be right and getting everyone to follow us rather than pointing one another to Jesus and His Word.

 

 Teditis said Love is ALL,

 "ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE" said John LENNON , who also said  "Imagine theres no Heaven , it's easy if you try , no hell below us , above us only sky ,  imagine all the people, living for today whow.OOOoOoooOO....I know that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one ".

Yes, there a lot of  Dreamers out there , but they need to waken up  .  Unity can be a bad word .  A sign of

 being too easily led by feel good emotions .  We  have to be sure what we are united  behind ,do we not ?

 

1 hour ago, thereselittleflower said:

  Universalists believe all are saved.

I can't find anywhere where he said anything about salvation in his post.

 

 

[*Zion*]

32 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I am not sure that you consious  about the effects of some of statements, that they are Judging faith in the Cross of Jesus Christ, and his redemption for us, who bought us with his blood alone.

Are preaching his Blood is not ENOUPH?

I say that because you are adding other requirements, or when others add other requirements, you fail to see their faith, behind those duties they include.

It is not for anyone to say, that they practice their religious duties without faith in the Cross, believing that Jesus died for us all.

And if thing so, just remind them of their faith. You do see them celebrating Easter, don't you?

Leave their culture alone, leave them with Jesus. 

The right time for everything.

God Bless

 

 

Did you even read the thread through?  If I have had any opposition whatsoever, it is simply because I have quoted the Word of God.  If the Word of God offends your culture, I cannot help you.  I have not added anything to God's Word, just attempted to encourage others in it,  I have not said anything against any culture, so do NOT put words in my mouth.  I don't know what preaching blood is, but Christians usually preach the Word of God.  I did not set out to preach, anyway, I was just looking to be encouraged and to encourage.  Why do you seem to have such a huge problem with that?  

If you do have a problem with God's Word unifying us, don't make it my fault, please.

If you want to be left alone with Jesus, then you certainly don't have to participate in this of all discussions.  What is it that has got you so fired up about unity, of all things?

[Guest Thallasa]

10 minutes ago, Teditis said:

You seem to have a hard time not reading into other people's post things that you struggle with.

This is not Universalism that I speak of but the Love of God, which is much extolled throughout the Bible.

As, Therese pointed out Universalists have an whole other belief system. that hinges around all souls will

eventually be reconciled to God... I don't believe that.

But it's interesting to me that you're doing exactly what has been brought up in this thread which is..

you saw something in my post that you didn't agree with and immediately called my Salvation into question.

That's a shameful thing to do... falsely accusing the brethren. God will hold you accountable for that.

But my question is this why do you feel it necessary to attack rather than question me about my beliefs

and explain errors in my beliefs? This site should be a ministry to help people but instead it often feels

like walking into the inquisitors dungeons for judgement.

 

I did not call into question your salvation , just what I thought was a careless statement which since  it is all

the rage now to express easy sentiments , and love Jesus like pop star This can be easily 'caught ' by those reading the forums ,  especially seekers  , or non believers who will take on board the phrase, like Lennons .

I hear it everywhere ," but Jesus is about Love is he not , and I love everybody , and so I'm OK" .Of course they don't really know that to be a christian takes effort and some sacrifice  , it means knowing what He actually said which is often not what we want to hear .

No I did not question your salvation, but highlighted what you said . 

[Your closest friendnt]

Jesus out of his love shed his blood for us, the blood of the New Covenant.

PS 

I am of the same culture as you

[Ezra]

30 minutes ago, Teditis said:

This is not Universalism that I speak of but the Love of God, which is much extolled throughout the Bible.

Agreed. To demonstrate the love of God to everyone without exception is what God desires. That does not mean compromising the Gospel or Bible truth but simply sharing it with all.

That does not translate into Universalism, since an essential part of the Gospel is repentance and genuine faith in Christ. That automatically excludes sacramentalism, salvation by good works, or faith in "another Jesus".