The real history of Jesus and the lost years ?

[SINNERSAVED]

30 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Compared to the Gnostic fables, the Mormon writings, and various other extra-biblical prognostications (e.g Nostradamus).  But once we fail to see that the Bible itself is sufficient, we open the door to all kinds of false ideas and winds of doctrine.  Oh, and let us not forget the Jesus Seminar and the garbage they have come up with.

if, you shut the doors on knowledge and sit only in a box, then you do not learn of what is around you , for God said that my people are destroyed for their lack of knowledge,  and they perish, for are you teaching as I have seen in church where the body just sits quietly,

 warms the bench and say amen , to what ever is being taught, ? I don't get it, learning is more then that , to accept what you are told , is not seeking God, and to seek God with all that you are is to , follow everything, to hunger for the word, and not just settle,

if you are calling your self a teacher, I don't see it ? are you saying you are a teacher of the word ?,there is too much negative  that I see, and that's not how I see the spirit of God to be, from what I see in the bible ?

 

[Your closest friendnt]

We need the Bible, we are bless with the bible, and must thank God all the time for the Holly scriptures.

 

Edited March 26, 2016 by Your closest friendnt
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[Your closest friendnt]

I would like to know how do we approach the " Jesus and Mag", and find out if it could be truth.

 

[other one]

On 3/23/2016 at 7:53 PM, MorningGlory said:

As for Jesus having a 'relationship' with Mary Magdaline, that probably comes from books like the Da Vinci Code and is pure fiction.  Jeesus was the perfect Son of God and never sinned, otherwise He could not have taken the sin of the world on Himself.  The Romans may have executed Jesus but it was on the orders of the Jewish high priests.   There are no verifiable stories that I'm aware of about Jesus' early years either so what is there to research?  Our Bible was commissioned by King James, an English ruler, although the early Bible was ordered to be put together by the Roman emporer, Constantine.  The Catholic Bible includes the Apocrypha, the Protestant Bible does not.  As to the 'neice counsel' I have NO idea what that would be.  And last, why would any believer need to question the Old OR New Testaments?  We already have our answers and I don't see why anyone needs to go extrabiblical looking for something outside the faith.

Actually the books are written because of the family history of the Merovingian blood line.....   they do trace their line to be the decedents of Mary M. which is actually more than possible.....   however that Jesus  had a child with her is the fantasy part.  That's what makes the study of that so interesting as most of the volume of it is or well could be true.....    it's just the part of where Mary's child came from that I don't see as even remotely possible.

[MorningGlory]

On 3/23/2016 at 8:14 PM, SINNERSAVED said:

Because we like sheep have gone astray, Jesus claims to come and seek of what was lost,?

 the reasons for this topic is to expand the minds of the believer and none believer ?

 it gives us foundation to those questions asked by those that would like a answer, ?

 we can not say just look in the bible and not know the origins of how and why things came to be to make things happen, ?

for the same, we all have different views and opinions, that differ from one another,

we cannot set our selves into a believers only box, and not firm our understanding but what others believe, for

if other people from other beliefs and religions or the Christian belief say we do things this way because, and another says we do things because, then we have a whole mixed up and different believing ideas and understandings of what one Book is trying to tell us,

 for we agree on somethings and disagree on other things, we have thousands of different religions, and hundreds just in Christianity and what they believe it to be , and what they have interpret scripture to say,

So the bottom line is , that through out the whole bible and scripture , ? we have a God that is our creator, and says if my people will humble them selves and call on my name I will forgive them their transgressions and forgive them , and they will be my people,

 this is the base line core of what we believe,? and so its good to bring up other things like did Jesus have a relationship , with a women , how can that be, ?

 for there is a counterfeit gospels and doctrines and other writings out there laid out, to take in and to derail and expose a different view and story on what is the truth , and so by asking ,

what I do , it is not about me as a believer ,or my faith , my sister, but to get the truth and to expose the false teachings and books and all that satan has had thousands of years to plant, along the tares with the wheat, for satans deception and infiltration of the bible,s and the churches and the history  books and the false evidence and false documents are out there, to take us away from what we believe,

 it is a spiritual battle going on , and we only see the writings and what we are told to believe, so we must test everything, and be sure in the foundation that God has bestowed on us, for there is power in the name of Yahweh,and we are to search the scriptures and test the spirits to be of God or of the devil, I hope I cleared this up for clarity and my intent?

 thank you and blessings and peace to you....

No true believer needs to go outside of Scripture.  There is something very wrong when the word of God is not considered as infallible.

[MorningGlory]

On 3/23/2016 at 10:48 PM, SINNERSAVED said:

if, you shut the doors on knowledge and sit only in a box, then you do not learn of what is around you , for God said that my people are destroyed for their lack of knowledge,  and they perish, for are you teaching as I have seen in church where the body just sits quietly,

 warms the bench and say amen , to what ever is being taught, ? I don't get it, learning is more then that , to accept what you are told , is not seeking God, and to seek God with all that you are is to , follow everything, to hunger for the word, and not just settle,

if you are calling your self a teacher, I don't see it ? are you saying you are a teacher of the word ?,there is too much negative  that I see, and that's not how I see the spirit of God to be, from what I see in the bible ?

 

Are you saying we should consider all of what Ezra mentioned as maybe things we need to know?  There is no truth outside of Scripture and trying to take people there is a very serious offense to the Lord.

[SINNERSAVED]

17 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

No true believer needs to go outside of Scripture.  There is something very wrong when the word of God is not considered as infallible.

there is nothing wrong to ,do research and to study other then the scriptures and bible  for their is more information to be gathered then to keep you mind close ?, it is to explore, the boundries of the out side, , and to get all the related facts and guides that helps to understand the scriptures even better, have you not study with the strongs or vines or dictionary , or commentaries, to the bible ?

 there is more   then meets the eye, and if you are seeking God , and I mean really  then you will see what else is going on around and to verify all that is given to you

 a believer is to know what they believe and why they believe and this is by exploring and getting into other things that are connected to what you believe, if not you have not done your duty as a believer to be ready and in word in and out of season,

 would that mean you do not study other religions, for it has no effect to you ?

 to study other religions gives you the foundations and the skills to know when you are confronted by those in that religion to know what they believe compared to your belief, so that you can communicate and show them how the bible is the word of God, if not , its hard to witness , with no information what so ever ?

 

[MorningGlory]

2 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

there is nothing wrong to ,do research and to study other then the scriptures and bible  for their is more information to be gathered then to keep you mind close ?, it is to explore, the boundries of the out side, , and to get all the related facts and guides that helps to understand the scriptures even better, have you not study with the strongs or vines or dictionary , or commentaries, to the bible ?

 there is more   then meets the eye, and if you are seeking God , and I mean really  then you will see what else is going on around and to verify all that is given to you

 a believer is to know what they believe and why they believe and this is by exploring and getting into other things that are connected to what you believe, if not you have not done your duty as a believer to be ready and in word in and out of season,

 would that mean you do not study other religions, for it has no effect to you ?

 to study other religions gives you the foundations and the skills to know when you are confronted by those in that religion to know what they believe compared to your belief, so that you can communicate and show them how the bible is the word of God, if not , its hard to witness , with no information what so ever ?

 

I have studied only one other religion and that is islam.  It's a dull, made up mish mash of things from the Torah and the Bible twisted into a fake 'religion'.  And no, a believer doesn't need to study extrabiblical ideas and theories for everything we need to know from God is in the Bible.  Dictionaries, concoordances and the like are helpers to reading Scripture, they are not founded in opposing thought. 

[MorningGlory]

48 minutes ago, other one said:

Actually the books are written because of the family history of the Merovingian blood line.....   they do trace their line to be the decedents of Mary M. which is actually more than possible.....   however that Jesus  had a child with her is the fantasy part.  That's what makes the study of that so interesting as most of the volume of it is or well could be true.....    it's just the part of where Mary's child came from that I don't see as even remotely possible.

Yes, I read about that in the 'Da Vinci Code' and while I considered it great reading, it's just fiction. 

[SINNERSAVED]

35 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

I have studied only one other religion and that is islam.  It's a dull, made up mish mash of things from the Torah and the Bible twisted into a fake 'religion'.  And no, a believer doesn't need to study extrabiblical ideas and theories for everything we need to know from God is in the Bible.  Dictionaries, concoordances and the like are helpers to reading Scripture, they are not founded in opposing thought. 

what about history , how does the apologetics , become able to defend the bible, you cannot be serious, that would be like your happy with a rotary phone, and it works, so why do I need a cell phone, ? if you did not now what the niece counsel ?was,  then you have not studied, or understood the system of the bible you are reading in your hand, 

so I have to disagree with you , and people need to explore , in study of history and science and other things, for the bible does you no good, if you are reading it as a book,, note , there is so much  that the bible holds, that you need to explore what Gods word means when we hear of the cultures and life styles , and events and movements, or you will not understand at all what the true word of God says,

 for many do not get this, but the bible scriptures that we say are God breath , is alive, it gives life to the soul , and it condems the soul to death , there is nothing like it or comes close,

 it has everything and more from one end of meanings to the spiritual things and beyond, so , you need to get out of your room and open a window, and step out side into the grass, and chase a rainbow

peace