Are Forum Members ever guilty of stirring up strife?

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26 minutes ago, Joline said:

Is it equal? Mocking a false God to respond in wrath, to prove he has no power at all, in the face of the true God, is equal to mocking here in the forums? Neh

1 Kings isn't the only verse in what you quoted - i also showed Paul and God Himself using sarcasm, and what i meant to show was that sarcasm is not ungodly just by virtue of being sarcasm. 

but thinking about what you said, what about speaking sarcastically about what someone may have set up as an idol in their lives for themselves? then it is also like what Elijah said to the prophets of Ba'al. 

of course am not saying that all sarcasm is cool and froody. i just wanted to point out that there are scriptural examples of it -- just like in the other post i made, not all open rebuke is right, but there is a scriptural basis for it as well. in everything we do, if we are not doing it through the Spirit, what may be good in one case can be sin in another. these abstract things i was posting about, sarcasm and rebuke, i don't think we can make broad, sweeping general statements about. we could equally come up with specific examples of them that are righteous and also specific examples that are unrighteous. 

so we need to exercise discernment through the Spirit in all this, yes? 

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11 minutes ago, Joline said:

Is rebuking the same as mocking? I dunno if mocking is appropriate. But, we are told to deal with those that teach heresy or accuse. but mocking, I dunno post

no, rebuking isn't the same as mocking. 

The proud and arrogant person -- "Mocker" is his name -- behaves with insolent fury.
(Proverbs 21:24) 

if we're being proud, arrogant and insolently furious, then we are not in the Spirit. 
if a brother or sister is being this way though -- what should we do? 
i know that God rebukes me when i act like this, and He does this out of His love for me, to teach me and 'instruct me in the way that i should go'

i should love you all the same way that He loves me -- how to do this?? 
that is the real question, always, always the real question for me! 

 

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3 minutes ago, post said:

1 Kings isn't the only verse in what you quoted - i also showed Paul and God Himself using sarcasm, and what i meant to show was that sarcasm is not ungodly just by virtue of being sarcasm. 

but thinking about what you said, what about speaking sarcastically about what someone may have set up as an idol in their lives for themselves? then it is also like what Elijah said to the prophets of Ba'al. 

of course am not saying that all sarcasm is cool and froody. i just wanted to point out that there are scriptural examples of it -- just like in the other post i made, not all open rebuke is right, but there is a scriptural basis for it as well. in everything we do, if we are not doing it through the Spirit, what may be good in one case can be sin in another. these abstract things i was posting about, sarcasm and rebuke, i don't think we can make broad, sweeping general statements about. we could equally come up with specific examples of them that are righteous and also specific examples that are unrighteous. 

so we need to exercise discernment through the Spirit in all this, yes? 

Ok, I think I get ya somewhat here. But too, the steps taken between brethren in a congregation, is quite different than here IMO. All kinds of different people here which would not attend the same assembly under the same leadership to begin with so.....There again I dunno.

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5 hours ago, Willa said:

Well, I have to admit that it fun to poke Enoob in the ribs.  But I do so admire and respect him and would never want to hurt him or be destructive.  I try to avoid it other places than the humor or derailing threads.  But I need to be nicer there as well.  

Often being ourselves is a fleshly thing when it is cutting and destructive in its outcome.  And the flesh has to die.  Self has to die so Christ can live.

 

 

Enoob has ribs??????? Just couldn't resist that one.

All I have ever seen is a hat, head, eyeballs, and feet. oh glasses, wrists hands and shoes

 

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sarcasm is not good at all unless people know you are being sarcastic....   and that is usually conveyed by posture, voice inflection and facial expressions which really don't exist in forums....    so if one is going to partake of sarcasm, one should make sure people understand what it is..

There is no good way or time to mock someone

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On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 3:26 PM, Esther4:14 said:

Yes, I do think that forum members are guilty of stirring up strife.  I remember when I was still new here, I even had posted on a subject, which is like whatever.  There are my words made temporarily permanent on a revolving cycle of threads on a Christian message board.  There I am, and then I go about my real life.  

However, someone was apparently very upset by this and began harassing me through the entire thread even when I decided to stop responding to them.  They still continued quoting my posts and demanding response even finishing with the words that they apparently, "knew" people like me or knew my kind of person.   

And, that really stuck with me over the year, that this person seemed to think they know me based on something I included into a discussion.  How do you know me based on a handful of words that I have posted on a Christian message board.  You can't see my face.  You don't even know what color hair I have.  You don't know that I have probably given at least a hundred bed baths before.  That I have two kids.  That I have given up many things over the past 8 years to pay for their Christian school education.  You don't know that my mom has been dead since I was 16.  You don't really know a thing about me.  I could really go on and on because most of the time something that I have to say does not define the person that I am.  

This is something that will cause me to feel impatient with others around here as well, this impression that they seem to think they know the person they are talking to from one discussion.  I really don't like when people forget that people are still people who do dishes, and laundry, and regular things we all do.  

There is really a whole lot more about me that no ones here when I am just using a simple keyboard to express myself.  

I get impatient with things like this in my real life too, when people think they have the right make comments that border more on gossip then objective criticism as well.  

Things like this often bother me at work.  People I work with complain about other people I work with, and I just don't really see why most of the time.  That is just a different person and that is the way  they do their job.  We can't just always replace people because we believe they are not doing everything we expect them to do.  

I used to float to different departments and this is a complaint for most of the people I work with because it is hard to be out of their comfort zone, and they will complain about how no one helps them in a different unit, and I know this isn't true because all I did was float and I always could find at least one person who is willing to help.  So, I think it just makes people feel better to complain sometimes.  

With the exception of a troll, I think most of the strife that is created on a Christian message board would be resolved if people would take the time to think of people beyond the post.  Maybe even consider that not everyone is going to be an award winning writer, and sometimes may be trying to say something more than their sentences reflect.  

I think it would even help sometimes if people really considered this card that it is okay to call out false teaching.  Maybe we should all take a minute to reflect on whether or not we are really qualified to call out what is false in every case we think we are?  

Most of the time I don't think people are trying to present "false" teachings.  They are more like unfinished teachings.  It is a primary reason I like using a message board to begin with.  I feel like I can be a little unfinished and it won't be held against me in 10 or 20 years.  To me, the message board is like a treadmill.  It is a spiritual exercise.  I think people take it way too seriously and this also creates strife.  

 

Because we are about The Word of God and personal is to be left out~ most of what you've written here is mute... I don't mean this in
reproach but merely direction of intent for posting. I personally am zealous for The Word of God for it is The only way, truth and life
energized by Holy Spirit bringing us unto the Living Word = Jesus The Christ    Love, Steven

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11 hours ago, Joline said:

Enoob has ribs??????? Just couldn't resist that one.

All I have ever seen is a hat, head, eyeballs, and feet. oh glasses, wrists hands and shoes

 

nanu nanu  

[enoob57]

2 minutes ago, algots said:

Everyone who has ever been on every side of the aisle, issue, and every side of a fight makes that claim.

That's the point. Is anyone ever wrong in their own eyes?

I believe the one that is dead to self and turned outward to the instruction of The Holy Spirit will have this happenstance...
I have personally been corrected by these boards in my thoughts and direction! It is in the humility that my own eyes are
always to be in question and reliance thru faith in The Lords Sight to be sought.   Love, Steven 

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Nooby,,,,

    Very well said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I myself know the unreliable heart & mind of carnality,when I am wrong ,I am wrong but I thank the Lord to keep my mouth shut when in doubt or for total avoidance of "thinking" for mySELF & "re-acting",I pray that He continues to keep me under His subjection,humbly,,,,,

    WE are all residing in these temporal,decaying vessels,,,,,,,one day we will have left them behind, & no longer struggle between flesh & spirit,,,,,,,,in the meantime I pray we can all let go & LET GOD                                                     With love-in Christ,Kwik

[enoob57]

4 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings Nooby,,,,

    Very well said,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I myself know the unreliable heart & mind of carnality,when I am wrong ,I am wrong but I thank the Lord to keep my mouth shut when in doubt or for total avoidance of "thinking" for mySELF & "re-acting",I pray that He continues to keep me under His subjection,humbly,,,,,

    WE are all residing in these temporal,decaying vessels,,,,,,,one day we will have left them behind, & no longer struggle between flesh & spirit,,,,,,,,in the meantime I pray we can all let go & LET GOD                                                     With love-in Christ,Kwik

Anyone doubting the truth of this need only to not bathe for two weeks ... there the evidence is overwhelming