Mohammedism Versus The Living God Of Israel

[Guest Robert]

7 hours ago, Knowingtruth said:

Jesus called twelve apostles to judge the twelve tribes. The betrayer Judas was replaced. So anyone claiming apostleship is a liar according to John in his Revelation. One cannot quote self-claim Paul to prove his claims.

Since Paul's calling is recorded in Acts (Luke's account, not Paul's), it is not "self-claim". The 12 accepted Paul, which is also recorded in there as well. If anyone had a problem with his calling, it would have been mentioned in Acts.

[kwikphilly]

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Peter calls Paul as a brother, not as an apostle. Scripture refers to the OT. Logic can prove both ways. Quoting self-claims of Paul will not prove anything with regard to his assumed apostleship. Before Act 22:21, Paul was chosen as an instrument to witness to both Gentiles and Jews. He deviated from this commandment for convenience.                                                                                      posted by Knowingtruth

How do you perceive Paul deviating? Where,when? "Logic"  has nothing to do with Understanding the Word of God...

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King James Bible
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
                                                                                                                                                                      Proverbs 3:5

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Spiritual Wisdom
…16I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers 17and asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in your knowledge of Him. 18I ask that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you may know the hope of His calling, the riches of His glorious inheritance in the saints,…                                                                                                 Ephesians 1:16-18

                                                                                                                              With love-in Christ,Kwik

[OakWood]

12 hours ago, Knowingtruth said:

It is happening in Muslim world too.

You are correct, it is happening in the Muslim World too. Proof that Jesus is the truth and Mohammed was a false prophet.

You are confused about what the term 'chosen people' means. You seem to think that we are declaring that God loves the Jews more than anybody else. The Jews are no better, no worse than anybody else. God has simply chosen them for a specific purpose. His promise to the World is carried out THROUGH them.

[Knowingtruth]

6 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

You clearly do not understand the relationship of the OT to the NT.   The NT does not cancel out the OT.   The NT amplifies the OT, builds upon it.

Agreed. OT is the foundation. But you don't dig at the foundation when the superstructure has been built upon it.

[Knowingtruth]

5 hours ago, RobertS said:

Since Paul's calling is recorded in Acts (Luke's account, not Paul's), it is not "self-claim". The 12 accepted Paul, which is also recorded in there as well. If anyone had a problem with his calling, it would have been mentioned in Acts.

Yes Paul was called to be a chosen vessel, not as an extra apostle( Acts). Only Peter calls him as his beloved brother, not as an apostle.

[Knowingtruth]

15 minutes ago, Yowm said:

You have already called Paul a liar and false apostle...therefore you are not a Christian.

Why not be truthful and tell us what faith you are.

I am faithful believer in Jesus Christ and His words. Paul himself claims to lie, boast and be crafty. Paul-mania is not Christianity. 

[Knowingtruth]

8 minutes ago, OakWood said:

You are correct, it is happening in the Muslim World too. Proof that Jesus is the truth and Mohammed was a false prophet.

You are confused about what the term 'chosen people' means. You seem to think that we are declaring that God loves the Jews more than anybody else. The Jews are no better, no worse than anybody else. God has simply chosen them for a specific purpose. His promise to the World is carried out THROUGH them.

Right. That specific purpose has been accomplished: salvation is from the Jews. Now we worship God in spirit and truth. That applies to all.

[Guest shiloh357]

When it comes to the "chosen people,"   it is important to understand that "chosen"  doesn't mean, "favorite."  It doesn't "better than everyone else."

All it means that you have particular task to complete that God has given to you. 

[Knowingtruth]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

  How do you spiritually identify yourself?  A Christian??  Doesn't seem to fit.  Most of your statements are completely opposite of that from an actual follower of Jesus and are inconsistent with Christianity.  No offence but you don't seem to understand the Bible at all.

 Some of  these conclusions they sound  Davinci code conspiracy-ish . 

The Heavenly Father GOD has preserved His Word. 

 

A Christian should fundamentally believe in the words of Jesus. He is the way, life and truth. Any other writings should complement His words. Canon is man-made. I don't go with Davinci code. I don't even touch his book with a long pole.

[Guest shiloh357]

3 hours ago, Knowingtruth said:

Agreed. OT is the foundation. But you don't dig at the foundation when the superstructure has been built upon it.

The New Testament is not the opposite of the OT.   The NT is not at war with the OT.   It is wrong to pit them against each other as if one cancels the other out.  God's promises to Israel in the OT were not canceled by the NT