sabbath day

[coheir]

40 minutes ago, WailingWall said:

Hebrews 4? Lets take a look

HEBREWS 4 [9] THERE REMAINETH THEREFORE A REST to the people of God.[10] For HE THAT IS ENTERED INTO HIS REST, he also hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS. [11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Well...Ya see what it says. There remains a rest. Now lets see how God rested from His work

HEBREWS 4 [4] For he spake in a certain place of THE SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And GOD DID REST THE SEVENTH DAY from all his works 

Yup. God rested the 7th day. Pretty simple

It is funny and sad how some leave out the most important verses to prove their point. No one is denying God rested on the 7th day.

He also made a better covenant after that. and it is clear you do not kow of the new covenant. you refuse to read the 14 other verses in Heb 4.

 

[WailingWall]

2 hours ago, coheir said:

It is funny and sad how some leave out the most important verses to prove their point. No one is denying God rested on the 7th day.

He also made a better covenant after that. and it is clear you do not kow of the new covenant. you refuse to read the 14 other verses in Heb 4.

 

No. Read them many times

HEBREWS 4

[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.[2] For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.[3] FOR WE WHICH HAVE BELIEVED DO ENTER INTO REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [4] For he spake in a certain place of THE SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And GOD DID REST THE SEVENTH DAY from all his works.[5] And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

They which actually believe do enter into His rest. Which rest is being spoken of? Verse 4 tells us its the rest of the 7th day. That’s Gods sabbath day alright.

[6] Seeing t herefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:[7] Again, HE LIMITETH A CERTAIN DAY, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

Some, to whom it was first preached had the spirit of unbelief and did not enter the sabbath rest (Ezek.20). They were destroyed. Hey Coheir, look into Zeke 20.

EZEK.20[13] But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and MY SABBATHS THEY GREATLY POLLUTED: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them IN THE WILDERNESS, TO CONSUME THEM.

[8] For IF JESUS HAD GIVEN THEM REST, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.[9] THERE REMAINETH THEREFORE A REST to the people of God.

You’ve heard the many say “Jesus is my rest”. Well…verse 8 contradicts that? Anyways the rest (sabbath) remains. Ive heard “the many” say verse 9 is speaking of the 1000 yr period of rest. That rest has not yet arrived, so how could it remain?  Another thing that bothers me is the fact that many of the new books have changed the name of Jesus to Joshua. Why? What are they trying to hide? Plain to see. The "many" claim Jesus is their rest, while the bible (verse 8) says quite the opposite. Thus the need for the change of names

HEBREWS 4 [9] THERE REMAINETH THEREFORE A REST to the people of God.[10] For HE THAT IS ENTERED INTO HIS REST, he also hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS. [11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Well...Ya see what it says. Now lets see how God rested from His work

HEBREWS 4 [4] For he spake in a certain place of THE SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And GOD DID REST THE SEVENTH DAY from all his works 

God rested the 7th day.

If you can find anything in verses 12-16 that speaks of Gods rest please let me know

[WailingWall]

Just a little somethin extra to show how great the WORD is! There are only 2 places in the ole KJV where the words “moreover also” can be found

EZEK.20 [12] MOREOVER ALSO I gave them MY SABBATHS, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them

ACTS 2 [26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; MOREOVER ALSO MY FLESH SHALL REST in hope:

If you will notice in ACTS 2 the WORD says “my flesh shall rest in hope”. Just as GODS 4th commandment tells us to do. Aint the Word great!

 

[WailingWall]

On 12/14/2016 at 10:54 AM, Giller said:

Did you know Wailling that back then in the wilderness, God wanted them to obey not just the 7th day of the week sabbath, but he also had 7 other days of sabbath, to were it was said to do no servile work therein.

Here it was referring to his sabbaths plural, and not just the 7th day.

Now you said that under the new covenant, we only now have the 7th day, and the passover, but according to the Ezekiel scripture, you would be in trouble with the Lord, for you do not keep all his sabbaths.

Nowhere will you find me saying we need not keep all His sabbath days.

[other one]

let me be the first then....     We don't have to keep all those sabbath days....

[WailingWall]

1 hour ago, other one said:

let me be the first then....     We don't have to keep all those sabbath days....

Oh, your not the 1st. You are amoung the many

ISAIAH 30 [15] FOR THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL; IN RETURNING AND REST SHALL YE BE SAVED; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: AND YE WOULD NOT.

[other one]

John 5:16-18
16 And for this reason the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But He answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working."  18 For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
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[other one]

I might add that the commandments we are to keep are the commandments we got from Jesus, not the old testament.

[WailingWall]

15 hours ago, other one said:

I might add that the commandments we are to keep are the commandments we got from Jesus, not the old testament.

ROMANS 13 [8] Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.[9] For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[10] Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Seems ive found all those "Thou shalt nots" in the old testament

Psalm 89:30-34 (KJV)
³⁰ If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;
³¹ If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;
³² Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
³³ Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
³⁴ My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

He meant what He said
 

 

[other one]

18 minutes ago, WailingWall said:

ROMANS 13 [8] Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.[9] For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[10] Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Seems ive found all those "Thou shalt nots" in the old testament

Psalm 89:30-34 (KJV)
³⁰ If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;
³¹ If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;
³² Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
³³ Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
³⁴ My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

He meant what He said
 

 

 

the old commandment wasn't broken and it is still in effect today.....   but it won't get you to heaven.....    only the new covenant and the commandments that Jesus gave us will.           And by the way if you keep Jesus's commandments, you won't break any of the old for you will not only break those laws, you won't even want to....   and that's the big difference.....    and acceptance of Jesus as your lord is to take up Gods rest as a way of life, not one day of the week.

You can live your entire life and never break one of the old covenant laws and still go to hell.