Running Gator Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, OneLight said: I see the approach as being the difference. You seem to what to pick up where other leave off and I suggest we ignore what someone else wrote and just focus on the facts. In other words, recorded statement and actions of a person is enough for us to work with. We don't need other peoples documentaries of what they believe someone said. But how do we get those facts without digging them out of the documentaries (or whatever word you want to us)? What source gives you just the facts and no commentary? i am not in Washington DC so I have no first hand facts to focus on, I have to find those facts first. If you can point me to a source that just gives the facts of what happened with no commentary I would be very appreciative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: But how do we get those facts without digging them out of the documentaries (or whatever word you want to us)? What source gives you just the facts and no commentary? i am not in Washington DC so I have no first hand facts to focus on, I have to find those facts first. If you can point me to a source that just gives the facts of what happened with no commentary I would be very appreciative. That is an excellent point. We do have to depend on what others provide, since we cannot be everywhere all the time. How I do this is by skimming the information for exact comments, then search more to try and find what was said before and after, looking for the full context instead of depending on someone else filling in the gaps. I especially like using transcripts, which can be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted October 15, 2016 48 minutes ago, Out of the Shadows said: But how do we get those facts without digging them out of the documentaries (or whatever word you want to us)? What source gives you just the facts and no commentary? i am not in Washington DC so I have no first hand facts to focus on, I have to find those facts first. If you can point me to a source that just gives the facts of what happened with no commentary I would be very appreciative. Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, OneLight said: That is an excellent point. We do have to depend on what others provide, since we cannot be everywhere all the time. How I do this is by skimming the information for exact comments, then search more to try and find what was said before and after, looking for the full context instead of depending on someone else filling in the gaps. I especially like using transcripts, which can be found. I think we are saying we do the same thing, just using different words. You call it skimming, I call it sifting, but I think in the end we are both doing the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said: Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,124 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,852 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 hours ago, ayin jade said: Russia is working to re-establish its former military bases in Vietnam and Cuba http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/world/europe/russia-seeks-to-reopen-military-bases-in-vietnam-and-cuba.html?_r=0 ever since the USSR came apart the US has been trying to isolate Russia and put them in a position to not have any power at all outside their borders and move NATO and it's weapons right up to their borders.... What Ukraine is all about is the loss of the only warm water port that Russia has which violates the agreements that the west agreed to when the Nukes were removed from Ukraine. Just like what we did with the Native Americans and just about everyone since, we don't carry out with our word.... and Putin knows he has a short time to act as Obama has pushed our military into a position that we are no longer the top dog by a whole lot.... and he knows that Hillary isn't going to change the direction of the US so he will really have little choice as to when to act. he has drawn some lines in the sand and he so far has backed his lines up...... and we are going to pay a huge price for our decisions. BTW if you do some real research on modern nuclear weapons, they kill a lot more people than they do damage compared to 30 years ago. and the Russian Military do think they can win a nuclear war with us and survive, and true or not that's what going to make reality happen in the next six months. If Hillary wins we at our house will go into a survival mode till next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, other one said: ever since the USSR came apart the US has been trying to isolate Russia and put them in a position to not have any power at all outside their borders and move NATO and it's weapons right up to their borders.... What Ukraine is all about is the loss of the only warm water port that Russia has which violates the agreements that the west agreed to when the Nukes were removed from Ukraine. Just like what we did with the Native Americans and just about everyone since, we don't carry out with our word.... and Putin knows he has a short time to act as Obama has pushed our military into a position that we are no longer the top dog by a whole lot.... and he knows that Hillary isn't going to change the direction of the US so he will really have little choice as to when to act. he has drawn some lines in the sand and he so far has backed his lines up...... and we are going to pay a huge price for our decisions. BTW if you do some real research on modern nuclear weapons, they kill a lot more people than they do damage compared to 30 years ago. and the Russian Military do think they can win a nuclear war with us and survive, and true or not that's what going to make reality happen in the next six months. If Hillary wins we at our house will go into a survival mode till next summer. Putin is not going to go to war with us, no matter who is in the White House. I am sorry if this is rude, but this sort of thinking is right there with the flat earth folks. He will continue to push out his empire building till we actually do something to try and stop him, which does not seem to be happening anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted October 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 14 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said: Russia is saber rattling to try and sway the election because Trump as stated publicly that he will not stop Russia from taking places like the Ukraine and more. What has Obama done to stop Russia from taking the Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Gator Posted October 16, 2016 Group: Royal Member * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 91 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 10,596 Content Per Day: 3.69 Reputation: 2,743 Days Won: 25 Joined: 06/16/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 16, 2016 42 minutes ago, nebula said: What has Obama done to stop Russia from taking the Ukraine? Pretty much nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted October 16, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Out of the Shadows said: Pretty much nothing There is nothing we could've done without potentially starting an actual war. I do recall when they took Crimea, though, that I first saw the news that they'd seized it maybe a day or two after reading a leaked intelligence estimate that claimed that they did not have the ability to do so. It's important to remember these places are on Russia's doorstep while being about 6000 miles from here. It is always difficult to dictate to a relatively powerful nation what they can and can't do in their own neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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