Back to "1984": LIES ARE TRUTH

[Steve_S]

7 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said:

The New York Times Editorial board has been making Presidential endorsements every election since they endorsed some guy named Lincoln.   It is only in recent history that people have been crying about it. 

Do you believe it is possible for a judge to rule in an unbiased manner, or is the very idea of humans doing anything in a non-biased way something you do not buy into?

The free media has a right to endorse whomever they'd like, but once an endorsement is made it reasonably calls their motives into question.

I believe it is possible for humans to be reasonably unbiased, yes, probably not totally, though, in most cases. In a case where someone has a favorite though, that possibility goes way down. Turn on a football game and watch a home crowd boo the ref after a catch that was obviously dropped is overturned using instant replay, in spite of a fact that everybody in the stadium just watched him drop it on the 30 foot jumbotron.

I do believe it is possible for a judge to rule in a reasonably unbiased manner.

However, in a trial if, just after the opening arguments, the presiding judge said something along the lines of "after hearing these opening arguments and looking over the evidence in a very thorough and deliberate manner, I would like to go ahead and declare to the court that I believe the prosecution to have the strongest case and furthermore believe the defendant to be guilty on all charges" - what appellate court would not overturn any conviction immediately? It would be considered clear evidence of bias towards the prosecution and against the defendant, it would be considered to have tainted the jury pool without allowing them to have heard the facts in evidence themselves without his opinion, and it would've spoken to the possibility that he made rulings that were in favor of the prosecution. A judge may not be the best example here, but if we are going to use a judge as the example, we have to use the proper context. The New York Times *did* endorse her. To compare whether or not a judge would be biased in any given case to this situation, you'd have to have him openly endorsing somebody in the case. In that case it would certainly show bias to a reasonable degree, just like it did when the times endorsed her.

[Ezra]

8 hours ago, Out of the Shadows said:

The New York Times Editorial board has been making Presidential endorsements every election since they endorsed some guy named Lincoln.   It is only in recent history that people have been crying about it. 

It is one thing to make an endorsement, and it is quite another thing to present propaganda to support that endorsement.  

The Western MSM have clearly become propagandists, and even after they have been exposed and rejected, they refuse to change their ways and do what is right.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/5_Times_Corporate_Media_Got_Caught_Publishing_Fake_News_Causing_the_Death_%26_Suffering_of_Millions/55336/0/38/38/Y/M.html

They all attacked Trump mercilessly and daily, while blacking out all the extremely serious news about the Clinton Crime Foundation and the Clinton Campaign. By rights, Comey should have brought charges against Clinton but was definitely pressured into backing down.  Did the media report this as it should have been reported?

It is only because of the false image of Trump which they created for the left wingers that now those same people cannot adjust to the reality of President Donald Trump.

[Running Gator]

16 minutes ago, Ezra said:

It is one thing to make an endorsement, and it is quite another thing to present propaganda to support that endorsement.  

The Western MSM have clearly become propagandists, and even after they have been exposed and rejected, they refuse to change their ways and do what is right.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/5_Times_Corporate_Media_Got_Caught_Publishing_Fake_News_Causing_the_Death_%26_Suffering_of_Millions/55336/0/38/38/Y/M.html

They all attacked Trump mercilessly and daily, while blacking out all the extremely serious news about the Clinton Crime Foundation and the Clinton Campaign. By rights, Comey should have brought charges against Clinton but was definitely pressured into backing down.  Did the media report this as it should have been reported?

It is only because of the false image of Trump which they created for the left wingers that now those same people cannot adjust to the reality of President Donald Trump.

Color me surprised, but your link has a very open minded list of 5 items.  We are still paying the cost in dollars and lives for the WMD lies passed on by the media when they gave Bush II a blank check to fulfill the deepest dreams of the conservatives.   And number 5 and the vapid anti-marijuana propaganda, I could not agree more with that one. 

 

[Ezra]

National Public Radio (NPR) is taxpayer funded, and if anything, should present news objectively.  Yet they continue to lie by insisting that Bannon is a white nationalist when that has been thoroughly debunked.  Which means they should be defunded.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/11/18/national-public-radio-falsely-links-breitbart-white-separatism/

[Running Gator]

53 minutes ago, Ezra said:

National Public Radio (NPR) is taxpayer funded, and if anything, should present news objectively.  Yet they continue to lie by insisting that Bannon is a white nationalist when that has been thoroughly debunked.  Which means they should be defunded.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/11/18/national-public-radio-falsely-links-breitbart-white-separatism/

Bannon is a white nationalist, I do not see the problem.

[Steve_S]

On 11/16/2016 at 7:40 PM, Out of the Shadows said:

That was not in question, but that is not the same as them admitting to being biased.   

When you say this, do you mean he is a white person who is a nationalist or a member of a white nationalist movement group?

[Ezra]

On 11/16/2016 at 3:15 PM, Davida said:

Well, infowars has gained more legitimacy since they first were on the scene and none of the mainstream media is balanced so it is nice to hear them do a report of the biased reports of CNN, MSNBC etc.   

Davida,

Here is THE REAL FAKE NEWS list as confirmed by Wikileaks and exposed by Ron Paul. All the journalists are listed and named.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/ron-paul-exposes-real-fake-media