RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 11 hours ago, Yowm said: That is the secular viewpoint. God did not create an 'ism'. I'll go halfway with you on this and say 'Rabbinic Judaism' started around the 1st century BC. Correct - as far as Rabbinic Judaism. Judaism itself goes all the way back to Moses who received the Law from God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 5 hours ago, shiloh357 said: No, Judaism is a post 1st century adjustment to the loss of the 2nd temple. Judaism is not the religion of the OT. Judaism started after the temple was destroyed, by what was left of Pharisaism. No - that is when the Rabbinical system of Judaism began. Judaism itself goes all the way back to Moses who received the Law from God. Jesus fulfilled the Law and WE His Church is the fulfillment of Judaism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, RealPresence said: No - that is when the Rabbinical system of Judaism began. Judaism itself goes all the way back to Moses who received the Law from God. Jesus fulfilled the Law and WE His Church is the fulfillment of Judaism. Nope, Judaism is only ever rabbnical. The ancient religion of Israel centered around the sacrifices and the temple. Judaism was an adjustment to to the loss of that. In Judaism, the works of the law replace the sacrifices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 4 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Oh and BTW, Islam is not an "Abrahamic" religion. Islam has nothing to do with Abraham. It didn't come into existence until the 6th century AD. However, the Koran falsely co-opted Abraham. They show him and Ishmael building the Kaaba in Mecca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Nope, Judaism is only ever rabbnical. The ancient religion of Israel centered around the sacrifices and the temple. Judaism was an adjustment to to the loss of that. In Judaism, the works of the law replace the sacrifices. You're conflating Judaism with Rabbinic Judaism. Judaism began when Moses received the Law from God: The start of Judaism as a religion was at Mount Sinai at the great revelation (1400 BCE). The start of Judaism as a religion was when Hashem (God) gave the ten commandments to the Jewish nation at Mount Sinai. From then on for forty years the Jewish people wandered in the Sinai desserts and Moses taught them the Torah, as he heard it from Hashem (God).Read more: http://www.orthodox-jews.com/origin-of-judaism.html#ixzz4RhBr8gro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 22 minutes ago, Yowm said: ism ˈizəm/ noun informalderogatory a distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement. "of all the isms, fascism is the most repressive" I'd rather call it the Jewish Faith. Scripture never calls it Judaism. Feedback Now, you're simply playing semantic games. Judaism IS the Jewish religion. the terms "Christendom" and "Incarnation" are not in the Bible - but those are basic terms of the Christian faith. The word "Bible" isn't in the Bible - so why do YOU call it that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,375 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 For those that are not aware, there's a big movement going on right now by the Holy See to unite Islam, Judaism and Christianity under one big happy umbrella. I anxiously await rebuffs to that statement. Whomever the 'Son of Perdition', the 'Man of Sin' turns out to be... He will have to be accepted by Islam, Judaism and Earth Walkers as a saviour of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said: For those that are not aware, there's a big movement going on right now by the Holy See to unite Islam, Judaism and Christianity under one big happy umbrella. I anxiously await rebuffs to that statement. Whomever the 'Son of Perdition', the 'Man of Sin' turns out to be... He will have to be accepted by Islam, Judaism and Earth Walkers as a saviour of mankind. HOGWASH. You anti-Catholics are always misquoting Pope Francis. He merely said that all religions and ALL people who have no religion should unite against the idea of “a one-dimensional vision of a human person, according to which man is reduced to what he produces and what he consumes,” which he said was “one of the most dangerous snares of our times”. He NEVER said that all religions should unite in beliefs. Do your homework instead of bearing false witness . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPresence Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 625 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 503 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/28/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Yowm said: I've explained myself at least three times. You happen not to agree, or are you trying to pick ANOTHER fight? I'm not picking fights. I'm just showing you where you're wrong. If that offends you - then why do you bother posting on a discussion site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted December 2, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted December 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, RealPresence said: HOGWASH. You anti-Catholics are always misquoting Pope Francis. He merely said that all religions and ALL people who have no religion should unite against the idea of “a one-dimensional vision of a human person, according to which man is reduced to what he produces and what he consumes,” which he said was “one of the most dangerous snares of our times”. He NEVER said that all religions should unite in beliefs. Do your homework instead of bearing false witness . . . Pope Francis: "I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity." "I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters: Firstly, my greetings as they celebrate the feast of sacrifice. I would have wished my greeting to be warmer. My sentiments of closeness, my sentiments of closeness in the face of tragedy. The tragedy that they suffered in Mecca. In this moment, I give assurances of my prayers. I unite myself with you all. A prayer to almighty god, all merciful." http://www.infowars.com/one-world-religion-pope-francis-says-all-major-religions-are-meeting-god-in-different-ways/ Francis said Muslims "worship the one God", but failed to mention it is the moon god. Francis told Muslims "I unite myself with you all. A prayer to almighty god, all merciful" hmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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