Implications of UN resolution against Israel

[ThomasRoane]

27 minutes ago, angels4u said:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.761317

Israel Fears American, French Initiative in Paris Conference Before Obama Leaves Office

Could there be war before Jan. 20?
 

Obama's time is short so there very well could be some military action.  A scuffle between the Israeli settlers and Muslims trying to claim territory would be just the excuse needed to escalate the situation militarily. 

[Marilyn C]

1 hour ago, Ezra said:

As Donald Trump has already indicated, this UN resolution will be rendered null and void after he takes office.  In any event, the UN is a paper tiger, and if several countries withdraw their financial support of this useless organization, it may even cease to exist. As Krauthammer has suggested, their building could be converted into condos!

In the meantime, Israel is disregarding all these attacks and proceeding with its plans for Jerusalem and other disputed areas. Once the American embassy is established in Jerusalem, things will start looking different.

Hi Ezra,

Now as all parts of society, (education, health, businesses etc) & church organisations have signed up to the UN`s moral laws I do NOT see this `wolf in lamb`s clothing` as a paper tiger!!!!!

Marilyn.

Edited December 28, 2016 by Marilyn C

[Sing40King]

I am looking for natural disasters and man made disasters in these nations that are apart of this horrible resolution. New Zealand is one of them and they've had earthquakes almost nonstop since 2014. God is very clear on bringing judgement to any nation who tries to divide Israel.

[ThomasRoane]

Thanks Marilyn.  LOL I have to ask.  Is " The first cab off the rank" an Aussie expression?  I'm at a loss as to what that means (ignorant Yank here).  I'm guessing it means first things first?   By unity of the faith I think you mean all Christians putting aside their dogma and becoming as one?  I think that would happen after much persecution.  There must be a shaking of the Church and separation of wheat and tares so that we are left with the faithful remnant.  So no argument here. 

I'm aware of Antiochus Epiphanes and his desecration.  I'm also familiar with the historical theory that Daniel's 70th week was most likely when Rome under Titus destroyed the Temple and most of the Jews suffered the judgment they deserved at the time - they did say that Jesus blood should be upon themselves and their children.  Hence the reason Jesus lamented over Jerusalem as a mother hen.   I also believe in a literal millennium but not one with a temple that would revert to old mosaic sacrifices.  Christ took care of that and He will be (in fact He is) our temple. 

Even though one could argue that most of the prophecies for the end times have occurred, I hesitate to put God in a box.  For example, Isaiah 7 was fulfilled by the wife of Isaiah and his son and yet was also fulfilled with the birth of Christ.  So, I wouldn't want to say for certain a Temple must be built or cannot be built.  The truth is I don't know for sure but I have eyes that see and ears that hear.  I will pay very close attention to the signs so I am not surprised as the foolish virgins.  I've been reading a very interesting book entitled "Interpreting the Prophetic Word" and the theory of progressive fulfillment really struck a chord with me.  See the definition below.

 

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The hermeneutics of progressive fulfillment looks at God's promises as a vine that grows, extends its branches in various directions, bears fruit, and keeps developing.  ~Willem A. VanGemeren

 

[Marilyn C]

57 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said:

Thanks Marilyn.  LOL I have to ask.  Is " The first cab off the rank" an Aussie expression?  I'm at a loss as to what that means (ignorant Yank here).  I'm guessing it means first things first?   By unity of the faith I think you mean all Christians putting aside their dogma and becoming as one?  I think that would happen after much persecution.  There must be a shaking of the Church and separation of wheat and tares so that we are left with the faithful remnant.  So no argument here. 

I'm aware of Antiochus Epiphanes and his desecration.  I'm also familiar with the historical theory that Daniel's 70th week was most likely when Rome under Titus destroyed the Temple and most of the Jews suffered the judgment they deserved at the time - they did say that Jesus blood should be upon themselves and their children.  Hence the reason Jesus lamented over Jerusalem as a mother hen.   I also believe in a literal millennium but not one with a temple that would revert to old mosaic sacrifices.  Christ took care of that and He will be (in fact He is) our temple. 

Even though one could argue that most of the prophecies for the end times have occurred, I hesitate to put God in a box.  For example, Isaiah 7 was fulfilled by the wife of Isaiah and his son and yet was also fulfilled with the birth of Christ.  So, I wouldn't want to say for certain a Temple must be built or cannot be built.  The truth is I don't know for sure but I have eyes that see and ears that hear.  I will pay very close attention to the signs so I am not surprised as the foolish virgins.  I've been reading a very interesting book entitled "Interpreting the Prophetic Word" and the theory of progressive fulfillment really struck a chord with me.  See the definition below.

 

 

Hi ThomasRoane,

Hubby says the expression` first cab off the rank,` is probably an English saying as Aussies say `taxi` & they say cab. The `rank` is where they line up, thus as you so rightly thought it is the first one in the line to get the `ride,` the person (s) who wants a cab.

As to the unity of faith it relates to what the Holy Spirit has been doing in the Body of Christ over the past 2000 years. Putting aside man`s denominational beliefs, (as the Holy Spirit has gone right through, over them) we realise that as believers we believe the same truths - Salvation, baptism, infilling of Holy Spirit, giftings of the Holy Spirit, ministries of the ascended Christ, (Eph. 4) & yet to come, the clarification of the eternal purposes.

BTW Many people have died or been driven out of their Christian community for those beliefs in the past.

I also don`t believe in the old mosaic sacrifices in the millennium but a celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles by Israel with the nations going up to Jerusalem for it. As to the `temple,` every reference to the 3 temples on Mount Moriah, was a translation of the Greek word `Heiron`. And `temple` erected elsewhere was invariably from the Greek word `Naos.` This word is frequently rendered `meeting place,` `Dwelling,` or `Synagogue.` It is the later word `Naos` that is used by Paul (2 Thess. 2: 4) in reference to the Temple used by contemporary Israel. It has absolutely no connection exegetically with the site on Mt. Moriah. In fact, there is no prerequisite for it to be built there. To the contrary, in line with Greek usage, it must be constructed elsewhere.

Marilyn.

Edited December 28, 2016 by Marilyn C

[Daniel 11:36]

« Breaking News »
Netanyahu: Kerry’s speech unbalanced and disappointing 
DEBKAfile December 28, 2016, 9:37 PM (IDT)

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said Wednesday night that he found the US Secretary of State John Kerry’s views on a Middle East peace, which “compared building houses in Jerusalem to terrorism“ as unbalanced and biased as the UN resolution. Unfortunately, he said, Secretary Kerry put the blame for the absence of peace on Israel, instead of correctly attributing it to the Palestinian refusal to accept Israel’s right to exist; hence its leader’s refusal to face Israel for peace negotiations.

Netanyahu noted that Israel was the only place in the Middle East where Christians can freely celebrate Christmas. Yet Kerry spent a whole hour denigrating the only democracy in the region. The prme minister expressed the hope that the Obama administration would refrain from doing any more damage to Israel at the United Nations.

My comment

Obama and Kerry need to be indicted for treason and kicked out of the US before these two bring the Lord's wrath upon America

There were multiple earthquakes in the US just today ..... and this may be the coming fate of western domination as we know it [Revelation 8:6-12; 14:8; 18:1-21]

Israel is also at risk for the nation's unbelief by the hand of the Lord as well [Ezekiel 20:33-44], however a remnant part will turn to Him during the tribulation and will be spared [Jeremiah 30] .... all of the other nations will come to their ending

As to the orchestration of Obama and Kerry to influence the UN resolution, there is no doubt .... and this will be evidenced when Trump takes the Presidency .... both culprits have denied their meddling and they are both lying

Israel will continue to build settlements and to stand against the Palestinians and all other Muslims in the Middle East

Israel has the military strength and resolve to defend against any current Muslim state or all of them together for that matter including the squatter Palestinians 

.... and it is the Lord who is protecting the tiny nation for His ultimate purposes

None of the Muslim belligerents in the Middle East are capable of enforcing any UN resolution or dealing with Israel and neither is the UN .... Israel's enemies are all divided and involved in warfare of their own making at the current time and the UN is a total joke .... the organization babbles on, but has no backbone

Israel's coming threat of substance will emerge when the current Middle Eastern Muslim divides are united by the human little horn of Daniel's visions ..... one that some call the "antichrist" .... the one that Satan's beast will fully possess and control

What the rhetoric coming from UN does do is to further the incitement of the Muslims against Israel     

Edited December 29, 2016 by Daniel 11:36

[Ezra]

4 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Ezra,

Now as all parts of society, (education, health, businesses etc) & church organisations have signed up to the UN`s moral laws I do NOT see this `wolf in lamb`s clothing` as a paper tiger!!!!!

Marilyn.

Marilyn,

Do you have any solid evidence that anyone has signed up to the UN's "moral laws" -- or should we say "immoral laws"?

 

[Marilyn C]

3 hours ago, Ezra said:

Marilyn,

Do you have any solid evidence that anyone has signed up to the UN's "moral laws" -- or should we say "immoral laws"?

 

Hi Ezra,

That`s great. We need to see the evidence.

Our countries (Australia & USA) & others are adopting & enforcing the United Nation`s moral values. These are – respect, responsibility, justice, trustworthiness, civic virtue & citizenship, etc. We would agree with these moral values as we know from God`s word, but that is not what is meant. Here are a few examples –

RESPECT – like tolerance – means appreciation for people & lifestyles (pagan & promiscuous, different sexual preferences……)

RESPONSIBILITY – refers to the `common good` of the community, where individuals must yield to the collective interests. (Socialism)

CIVIC VIRTUE & CITIZENSHIP – are also open ended. Compliant citizens must be ready to conform to changing rules & evolving duties.

Organisations – (Businesses, banks, medical, educational, military, religious etc) are all having to abide by these moral values. Here are a few examples –

- Christian nurse was disciplined for alleged bullying & harassment (praying for a person).

- Christian Magistrate suspended & sent to `equality training` for suggesting children need mom & dad.

- Atlanta Fire Chief was fired because of his Christian Faith.

- Owners of a cake decorating business in Oregon were found guilty of discrimination & could face $150,000 in fines for not baking a cake for a same-sex wedding.

- Teenagers at a California high school were publically shamed for disagreeing with speakers pushing their LGBT agenda during an English class.

- Ford contractor was fired for speaking against Company`s support of homosexuality.

- Military Chaplains are feeling pressure to conform to the new reality, as some label biblical values `hate speech.`

- Bank of Montreal now requires business partners to conform to its pro-gay `diversity standards.`

- College ministry kicked off campus for requiring leaders to be Christian.

- Preacher fined for `emotional harm` caused by quoting Levitical law against homosexuality.

 

- LGBTTQQFAGPBSM? Housing of 15 alternative sexualities is ok, but men only fraternities are not, Wesleyan University says.

- UCLA broadcasting Muslim call to prayer declaring `Allah is great,` on campus.

- Church of England Pastor welcomes Muslim Prayer Service.

- The Episcopal Church formally embraces gay marriage.

- The Presbyterian Church (USA), is only 7 votes away from officially changing its definition of marriage to include same-sex unions.

 

- UK Christian school is being shut down & another under scrutiny after investigators quizzed random students & found them to have `discriminatory views` towards others. (different faiths, values or beliefs)

All these examples are from articles collected in `Prophecy News Watch,` (Jan. – March 2015)

 

God has warned us in His word –

`....friendship with the world is enmity with God.` (James 4: 4)

Friendship – from the Greek word, `philia,` friendship & `philos,` associate, partner.

 

Marilyn.

[Marilyn C]

4 hours ago, Ezra said:

Marilyn,

Do you have any solid evidence that anyone has signed up to the UN's "moral laws" -- or should we say "immoral laws"?

 

And then there are these specific `declarations` that I know the ACC here in Australia has signed. (ACC - Australian Christian Churches)

1. Safe Churches program. Supposedly to keep children safe in organisational meetings, however it is all about the `rights` of the child as per UN`s moral laws.

2. Global Freedom Network. Supposedly to enable every one to have `freedom & equality.` However it is a smoke covering for alternate sexual practices.

regards, Marilyn. 

[Ezra]

4 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

We would agree with these moral values as we know from God`s word, but that is not what is meant.

Exactly. So they are in fact "immoral values" parading as moral values, and the UN has no jurisdiction to enforce these.