Did we Make a Mistake

[Churchmouse]

1 hour ago, shoes_untied said:

The violence, while reprehensible, is people accepting Trump as President.  Look at Trump's campaign.  He encouraged violence, even offered to pay the legal bills of those who assaulted protesters. He is now living in the bed he made.  I'm sure the Trump apologists will show up shortly to claim that he was misrepresented but it is pretty obvious to thinking humans what he started with his campaign.

Having said that, most people who don't like Trump are indeed waiting out his candidacy.  In the information age it is very easy to make isolated incidents seem like wholesale riots.  It sells and generates clicks.

I don't know where you've been over the past year, but the protesters have always been violent and have attacked and spit on his supporters since they first hit the streets  What President Trump was talking about is those who went toe to toe with these protestors and tossed them out of a peaceful gathering that they infiltrated to cause disruption and damage. I remember an account of one protestor punching a supporter while being escorted out of a rally. I don't really care that you attempted to poison the well by claiming those who disagree with you are quote/unquote Trump Apologists as if there aren't people out here who just want to set the record straight and not some goosestepping moron that you are eluding to.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Churchmouse

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Churchmouse said:

I don't know where you've been over the past year, but the protesters have always been violent and have attacked and spit on his supporters since they first hit the streets  What President Trump was talking about is those who went toe to toe with these protestors and tossed them out of a peaceful gathering that they infiltrated to cause disruption and damage. I remember an account of one protestor punching a supporter while being escorted out of a rally. I don't really care that you attempted to poison the well by claiming those who disagree with you are quote/unquote Trump Apologists as if there aren't people out here who just want to set the record straight and not some goosestepping moron that you are eluding to.

It was a Trump supporter who punched a protester in the face while he was being escorted out.

[Churchmouse]

1 hour ago, shoes_untied said:

Certainly you have a right to think this but to many of us the lazy and selfish cried "waa waa waa the government has forgotten us waa waa waa we can't compete in a global economy, waa waa waa we need someone to make it easier for us", and then when Trump came along and their guy got elected they stood behind him looking over his shoulder saying "hey snowflake".  Good grief.  Sorry but not buying responses that are based on the assumption that Trump is "God's choice."

You sound as though you have contempt for those who have suffered personal setbacks in the past few years. If you remember right this economic downturn  was given to President Obama and under his guidance much of those who lost everything, including their self esteem languished to poverty on government doles for years. They looked for President Obama to bring the country out of this, but because of his political ideology, he concentrated on other things instead of what concerned those who most likely voted for him in the faith that he would help them in the way they wanted help.

Now your place all those who have been aggrieved and include them with those who sneer at the left as if they were apart of that. Only a few on the right have sneered at the left for a small segment of the population, but you seem to  sneer at everybody in the most egregious fashion for simply voting for the same change they once desired from President Obama.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Churchmouse

[Churchmouse]

12 minutes ago, JaniceR said:

It was a Trump supporter who punched a protester in the face while he was being escorted out.

Maybe I was wrong here or maybe we are talking about a different altercation, but for the event you are talking about, I would like to find out the reason it turned violent. Seeing what has been coming out of the mouths of the protesters, I wouldn't say he was asking the person out for a date.

All i can say is this link says that he apologized to the protester.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/310484-trump-supporter-who-sucker-punched-protester-apologizes

Edited February 7, 2017 by Churchmouse

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Churchmouse said:

Maybe I was wrong here or maybe we are talking about a different altercation, but for the event you are talking about, I would like to find out the reason it turned violent. Seeing what has been coming out of the mouths of the protesters, I wouldn't say he was asking the person out for a date.

The protester was being escorted out by security. He was yelling, but didn't touch anyone. A guy at the rally assaulted him as he went by.

[Steve_S]

7 minutes ago, JaniceR said:

The protester was being escorted out by security. He was yelling, but didn't touch anyone. A guy at the rally assaulted him as he went by.

Stuff like that is a pretty isolated incident though. If you look at the past say three years, leftists have been rioting, etc., fairly regularly. I cannot recall a significant instance of a right wing demonstration going violent. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Steve_S said:

Stuff like that is a pretty isolated incident though. If you look at the past say three years, leftists have been rioting, etc., fairly regularly. I cannot recall a significant instance of a right wing demonstration going violent. 

During the election cycle there was too much violence on both sides. I was just on Youtube to make sure I had my facts straight before posting about the Trump rally. Unfortunately I found videos of plenty of violence on both sides, from demographics across the spectrum of political beliefs.

[Churchmouse]

On 2/2/2017 at 9:20 PM, missmuffet said:

Worse? Just as bad as it is now? A matter of perspective.

What do you mean by it being bad right now? what has changed is has not come to fruition except in the minds of those who assumed the worst to begin with. None of us can see into the future and nothing like President Trumps activities has, to my knowledge has ever been tried before, so we have nothing to go on except the hope of his supports that what he's doing will work and the hopes of his detractors that it won't.

[Churchmouse]

2 minutes ago, JaniceR said:

During the election cycle there was too much violence on both sides. I was just on Youtube to make sure I had my facts straight before posting about the Trump rally. Unfortunately I found videos of plenty of violence on both sides, from demographics across the spectrum of political beliefs.

I will look for them, but I would appriciate if you would please pm the links to them so it would speed up the process. Thank you.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Churchmouse said:

What do you mean by it being bad right now? what has changed is has not come to fruition except in the minds of those who assumed the worst to begin with. None of us can see into the future and nothing like President Trumps activities has, to my knowledge has ever been tried before, so we have nothing to go on except the hope of his supports that what he's doing will work and the hopes of his detractors that it won't.

I voted for Trump. But, I am concerned with what I am seeing since the election. There are things about him I like, but there are things about him that concern me. When I look around me, his supporters seem to almost worship him. Nothing he does is wrong and to question him is almost non-existant.  Those who dare are silenced. He is just a man, not a God. He cannot be right 100% of the time. Yes, we can support him. But, we need to also hold him accountable.