Satanic Counterfeits Amongst the Church

[LadyKay]

13 minutes ago, angels4u said:

We have to stand for solid biblical truth and that is why you should explain why you don't agree with their teaching

Yes I agree. I would like to know too. 

[Ezra]

12 hours ago, heretoeternity said:

What do these mentioned have in common?

False teachings.

[White Rabbitt]

13 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, there are many and unfortunately many embrace them. Just look at the people that are packed into their Churches. But the Bible did say that in the last days hearts will embrace these false teachers. We as Christians are suppose to expose these counterfeit false teachers. Then it is between them and God.

I think Joel Osteen is good.

If you listen to the Lakeland church service on the internet every Sunday morning, you will feel fulfilled in many ways you don't get in local churches.

I feel bad that people think so poorly of him when he does so much good.

[Bill16652]

I consider Joel Olsteen a motivational speaker more so than a preacher.  I dont think he has much substance bible wise but does motivate people

[White Rabbitt]

1 minute ago, Bill16652 said:

I consider Joel Olsteen a motivational speaker more so than a preacher.  I dont think he has much substance bible wise but does motivate people

Listen to a Lakeland church service rather than shortened sermon made for TV.

The Lakeland church is very good and there are more speakers than just Joel Osteen.

Even so, he fits in well and I look upon him rather highly.

I've gone to so many churches and so many pastors these past 30 plus years, and no one's any better than Joel Osteen.

[missmuffet]

16 minutes ago, White Rabbitt said:

I think Joel Osteen is good.

If you listen to the Lakeland church service on the internet every Sunday morning, you will feel fulfilled in many ways you don't get in local churches.

I feel bad that people think so poorly of him when he does so much good.

Suit yourself.

[KittyBubbleFlowers]

17 minutes ago, White Rabbitt said:

Listen to a Lakeland church service rather than shortened sermon made for TV.

The Lakeland church is very good and there are more speakers than just Joel Osteen.

Even so, he fits in well and I look upon him rather highly.

I've gone to so many churches and so many pastors these past 30 plus years, and no one's any better than Joel Osteen.

If that were true it would be a horrible testimony for the future of the church. 

Joel Osteen lies in his sermons about people's stories that he tells in order to fold those into his sermon. 

He's a Humanist and a materialist. 

 

Watch him on Larry King when he's asked about salvation and how someone attains Heaven. Osteen tells you himself he's unfit for his posting in that interview. 

[White Rabbitt]

55 minutes ago, KittyBubbleFlowers said:

If that were true it would be a horrible testimony for the future of the church. 

Joel Osteen lies in his sermons about people's stories that he tells in order to fold those into his sermon. 

He's a Humanist and a materialist. 

 

Watch him on Larry King when he's asked about salvation and how someone attains Heaven. Osteen tells you himself he's unfit for his posting in that interview. 

Yes, Joel blew it that day, not prepared at all.

Who else has done that?

Presidents have done that.

I'm sure many others.

Would Larry King catch him off guard again?

I doubt it.

Did you ever do anything wrong?

Say the wrong thing?

Realize what you were believing was wrong?

Did people hate you for it and bad mouth you forever for it even though you changed?

Hasn't every TV preacher done something wrong?

Should we show hatred to all of them?

How many Christians bad mouth Joel Osteen without ever seeing him even once on Tv?

Without having ever seen him preach within the confines of a Lakeland Church service?

Without ever having read one of his books?

The hatred Christians show Joel Osteen is far greater than the mistakes he has made in life.

And the devil likes it that way.

[White Rabbitt]

7 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Joel Osteen: I'm Not Cheating People by Not Talking About Hell

http://www.charismanews.com/culture/56119-joel-osteen-i-m-not-cheating-people-by-not-talking-about-hell

Isn't the teacher I'd listen to.

Then who would you listen to?

Who do you listen to?

What church do you go to?

You want to be so critical about Joel Osteen?

Let's hear about you.

[White Rabbitt]

5 minutes ago, Yowm said:

I am not just picking on Osteen, there are many other prosperity-feel good teachers out there I'd avoid. I look for those who take seriously all of God's Word and won't skip over the tougher stuff just to be likeable.

Okay, and who are they?

Have you found any?

Can you name them?

Or is this just some kind of hatred game you play with Osteen?