National injunction; a bad idea no matter who is President

[ruck1b]

17 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1981 said:

Well of course I do not know you personally or anything about you - so take this for what it's worth.

If you truly believe that 'America is racist' - what are you doing about it? Anything constructive?

If you live in America (USA) and if it's so terrible, perhaps you should move.

'Racist' is one of those terms that gets thrown around all too readily.  It is a card that is generally played to end debate - not encourage it.  You're new here (I can discern at least that about you).  

Welcome - but if you are here to engage in fruitful discussions, then you might want to back off the inflammatory terms.

Blessings,

-Ed

 

Perhaps you can call a spade a spade.

 

[ruck1b]

18 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1981 said:

Well of course I do not know you personally or anything about you - so take this for what it's worth.

If you truly believe that 'America is racist' - what are you doing about it? Anything constructive?

If you live in America (USA) and if it's so terrible, perhaps you should move.

'Racist' is one of those terms that gets thrown around all too readily.  It is a card that is generally played to end debate - not encourage it.  You're new here (I can discern at least that about you).  

Welcome - but if you are here to engage in fruitful discussions, then you might want to back off the inflammatory terms.

Blessings,

-Ed

 

Also I'm not new here.  I was here for quite some time had my account deleted and left.  I decided to return.    I don't throw around racist readily either.  I am quite aware of when I use it and yes America is racist.  It has always been. I wont sugarcoat it for your feelings. 

[SavedByGrace1980]

2 minutes ago, ruck1b said:

Also I'm not new here.  I was here for quite some time had my account deleted and left.  I decided to return.    I don't throw around racist readily either.  I am quite aware of when I use it and yes America is racist.  It has always been. I wont sugarcoat it for your feelings. 

Unless you wish to take this discussion in a different direction, this will be my last response to you.

You're saying 'America is racist' is about as intellectually deep as one of the placards at the UC Berkeley riots.  I suspect you're more intelligent that that but again, I do not know you personally.

I claim Christ as my Savior.  My understanding of the meaning of that is that while I'll never be perfect (as He was perfect and sinless), I can strive toward that end.  The desire to BE Christ-like is what motivates me to do many of the things I do.

Of course when I encounter a person of a different race I likely will notice that.  Is that racist to you? Noticing someone's race?

Acting on it would be a different matter.  My intention is always to treat someone as a fellow human being first.  If that someone claims Christ (as I do) they are in addition a brother or a sister.

Next month I will celebrate my 64th birthday.  On other threads I've shared my experience growing up - moving from PA to NC as a child and seeing the racism that existed there. (1961-63).  Segregated bathrooms.  Water-fountains. Schools.

Are you saying we've made NO progress since those days?  

Will be ever be perfect?  No - of course not.  You never answered my query to you about other nations that might not be 'racist' in your eyes.  Probably because you cannot name one because there is not one.

Perfection will only come when the Lord returns and establishes His kingdom.  But until then, we abide.  We do the best we can.

So like I said, this is all I have on the topic of 'America is racist.'

If you wish to take it in a different direction, go for it.

Blessings,

-Ed

 

 

 

[ruck1b]

30 minutes ago, SavedByGrace1981 said:

Unless you wish to take this discussion in a different direction, this will be my last response to you.

You're saying 'America is racist' is about as intellectually deep as one of the placards at the UC Berkeley riots.  I suspect you're more intelligent that that but again, I do not know you personally.

I claim Christ as my Savior.  My understanding of the meaning of that is that while I'll never be perfect (as He was perfect and sinless), I can strive toward that end.  The desire to BE Christ-like is what motivates me to do many of the things I do.

Of course when I encounter a person of a different race I likely will notice that.  Is that racist to you? Noticing someone's race?

Acting on it would be a different matter.  My intention is always to treat someone as a fellow human being first.  If that someone claims Christ (as I do) they are in addition a brother or a sister.

Next month I will celebrate my 64th birthday.  On other threads I've shared my experience growing up - moving from PA to NC as a child and seeing the racism that existed there. (1961-63).  Segregated bathrooms.  Water-fountains. Schools.

Are you saying we've made NO progress since those days?  

Will be ever be perfect?  No - of course not.  You never answered my query to you about other nations that might not be 'racist' in your eyes.  Probably because you cannot name one because there is not one.

Perfection will only come when the Lord returns and establishes His kingdom.  But until then, we abide.  We do the best we can.

So like I said, this is all I have on the topic of 'America is racist.'

If you wish to take it in a different direction, go for it.

Blessings,

-Ed

 

 

 

Its not meant to be deep.  It also has nothing to do with intellect, unless you are just not willing to accept the premise.  Attempting to tie this phrase to intellect is par for the course though.  Yes, I'm intelligent.  I will say it again.  America is racist.  The fact that a statement as bold as " Obama has now made it hard for Black Americans to be president only serves proof of an already dirty mirror.   May be you should address that comment, or maybe you can deal with the fact America is racist.  Again history proves my statement.  As far as your age...congrats.  Maybe you should actually be more aware of this country and the dirt that is loves to sweep under the rug. No my friend, America will not get a pass for its racism.  also that's fine if you want to pull out of the conversation, maybe you should have thought about it before you decided to hang onto my phrase. Now if you want to deal with why black folks will now have such a hard time becoming president because of Obama, then please help me understand why that same statement does not apply to whites.  When we have had 44 white presidents.  You want to go a different direction I'm giving you the direction...its up to you to take it. 


Let me add that yes, we have made progress, but progress does not mean a thing was eliminated.  We have only move passed certain overt transgressions. 

 

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2 hours ago, ruck1b said:

Its not meant to be deep.  It also has nothing to do with intellect, unless you are just not willing to accept the premise.  Attempting to tie this phrase to intellect is par for the course though.  Yes, I'm intelligent.  I will say it again.  America is racist. 

American isn't racist.  A two-term black president proves that this is not a racist country.

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The fact that a statement as bold as " Obama has now made it hard for Black Americans to be president only serves proof of an already dirty mirror.  

Obama HAS made it harder for a black American to be president given how racially divisive he was.   For eight years America was held hostage by the notion that any disagreement with the president's policies was racism.   The Congress was afraid to oppose him because of the potential of being labeled racism.   The Left discovered that the "racist" card was a potent, all-purpose weapon to shut down conversations and bully people into silence.

When we get another black president, are we going to be called racist for any disagreement or criticism of his policies?  The possibility that we will get another thin-skinned, narcissist like Obama, who will be just as incompetent and just as reckless is something we have to consider.

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May be you should address that comment, or maybe you can deal with the fact America is racist.  Again history proves my statement.

History for the last 30 years DISPROVES that statement.

 

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As far as your age...congrats.  Maybe you should actually be more aware of this country and the dirt that is loves to sweep under the rug. No my friend, America will not get a pass for its racism.  also that's fine if you want to pull out of the conversation, maybe you should have thought about it before you decided to hang onto my phrase. Now if you want to deal with why black folks will now have such a hard time becoming president because of Obama, then please help me understand why that same statement does not apply to whites.  When we have had 44 white presidents.  You want to go a different direction I'm giving you the direction...its up to you to take it. 

Racism is not a one-way street.  The Black Lives Matter movement is a virulently racists, Marxist/Communist organization. 

 

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Let me add that yes, we have made progress, but progress does not mean a thing was eliminated.  We have only move passed certain overt transgressions. 

There is pockets of racism in the US, but we are not "racist" country and the plethora of actors, businessmen, doctors, athletes, inventors who are black, Asian, Hispanic, etc., prove that we are country of opportunity for those willing to work for it. 

[ENOCH2010]

I see more minorities being racist toward whites than whites being racist toward them  

[Steve_S]

8 hours ago, ruck1b said:

Again your bias is showing, but forget that I want to deal with your last statement.

I swear this is a grossly stupid statement and undertones are telling.  But thank you for just stating what has been known for so long. America is racist. 

Ruck was removed from the thread and will be issued a warning point for the above statement.