All scriptures/II Tim. 3:16, 17

[Remnantrob]

2 minutes ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

All Scripture is what we have before us today.

Evidence?

[TheMatrixHasU71]

Just now, Remnantrob said:

Evidence?

I already answered it. They didn't HAVE anything else. The OT canon was already codified, and as for the New, the gospels and Epistles were only just beginning to circulate.

[simplejeff]

1 hour ago, Walter and Deborah said:

2 Timothy 3:16-17King James Version (KJV)

¹⁶ All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

¹⁷ That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

All scriptures

This fits perfectly, of course, with JESUS WORD to HIS disciples "you must be perfect, as your FATHER in heaven is perfect".

Likewise,  as JESUS did: " Then opened HE their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,"

so also when JESUS does TODAY,   there is no question nor doubt.  

While abiding in HIM,  no worries at all.   Continued Peace, and Joy, and Righteousness, as written in HIS WORD.

 

[Remnantrob]

1 hour ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

I already answered it. They didn't HAVE anything else. The OT canon was already codified, and as for the New, the gospels and Epistles were only just beginning to circulate.

What I meant is what evidence within the bible tells you that the OT is the scriptures referred to in the original post.

[Ezra]

3 hours ago, Yowm said:

At the time of writing it was basically the Old Testament but the Church also sees the New as Scripture as well.

Actually at the time of writing (c AD 68) almost all of the New Testament had also been completed, since Peter mentions all of Paul's epistles as Scripture (c AD 66).  The Gospels had already been written, as well as some of the other epistles.  And since Paul was also a prophet, he could see the rest of Scripture being completed very shortly (c AD 90).

3 hours ago, Remnantrob said:

Amen....what is all scripture?

Well for conservative Christians who are not Catholics, the 66 books of the Protestant Bibles are *all Scripture*.  Scripture was preserved in the traditional Hebrew (Masoretic) and Greek (Byzantine) texts, and handed down to us in the Reformation Bibles (including the KJB).

[Ezra]

2 hours ago, Remnantrob said:

What I meant is what evidence within the bible tells you that the OT is the scriptures referred to in the original post.

Please note carefully (Luke 24:25-27; 44,45):

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself...

44  And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses (Torah = 5 books), and in the prophets (Neviim = 8 books), and ( in the psalms (Ketuvim = 11 books), concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.

When Christ said *all the Scriptures* and *the Scriptures* He was referring to the Hebrew Tanakh which has 24 books (not the Septuagint which is a corruption).  These books were split up in the English Bibles so that they became 39 books, e.g. Kings was one book, so were Chronicles, Samuel, Ezra-Nehemiah, etc.  All the 12 minor prophets were in one book called *The Twelve*.

[Your closest friendnt]

3 hours ago, Walter and Deborah said:

2 Timothy 3:16-17King James Version (KJV)

¹⁶ All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

¹⁷ That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

All scriptures

I would like to agree on an emotional level, but also with a word of caution.

For many people use the scriptures for their own gain.

Presepts upon presepts a little here and a little there and accussing everyone else as a false prophet , mentioning all the scriptures with reference to wolf's in sheep's clothing , and there we have the birth of a new cult. 

A lot of harm has been done , and people use scriptures to justify it. 

 

[Remnantrob]

13 hours ago, Ezra said:

Please note carefully (Luke 24:25-27; 44,45):

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself...

44  And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses (Torah = 5 books), and in the prophets (Neviim = 8 books), and ( in the psalms (Ketuvim = 11 books), concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.

When Christ said *all the Scriptures* and *the Scriptures* He was referring to the Hebrew Tanakh which has 24 books (not the Septuagint which is a corruption).  These books were split up in the English Bibles so that they became 39 books, e.g. Kings was one book, so were Chronicles, Samuel, Ezra-Nehemiah, etc.  All the 12 minor prophets were in one book called *The Twelve*.

Thanks Ezra....That's what i was looking for.

[OneLight]

There would be no way to point to the NT since it had not been penned yet.  So, the question for many would still be if the NT is considered inspired by God? 

[Ezra]

5 hours ago, OneLight said:

There would be no way to point to the NT since it had not been penned yet.  So, the question for many would still be if the NT is considered inspired by God? 

Already addressed and answered.  The NT was well on its way to completion when Paul said "ALL Scripture", and Peter had already confirmed that over 50% of that Scripture was known to him in the epistles of Paul. Peter equates all of Paul's epistles with "the other Scriptures".

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2 Peter 3:15,16).