Arkansas woman to be banned from Walmart for racist remarks - what?

[wingnut-]

Just now, LadyKay said:

I just don't understand why some on here are making Wal Mart out to be the bad guy with this.  When we wouldn't put up with that sort of thing going on in here. I really would not want to take my kid to a store where people are shouting f- this or f that or yelling out the n-word. I would get the manager to do something about it. And I think everyone else on here would too. 

 

What I am trying to point out is this ladykay, and it is quite simple really.  This world is controlled by the enemy, and taking away our freedom is the goal of that enemy, because it is this freedom which allows us to spread the gospel.  It is clear in scripture that this will eventually change, a one world government and a one world religion is coming, it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact.  So when you start deciding what others can say because you find it offensive, you are in fact surrendering your own rights and ushering in what will come.  If you don't believe that is true, you are going to find out sooner than later that you are wrong.  Unfortunately one of the side effects of freedom is allowing things that you would spend a lifetime opposing to exist, when you restrict that you are shooting yourself in the foot.  Try to set emotion aside and follow this out to its logical end, my argument is in defense of this site being able to exist so we can even have this discussion.

God bless

[Running Gator]

4 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

 

What I am trying to point out is this ladykay, and it is quite simple really.  This world is controlled by the enemy, and taking away our freedom is the goal of that enemy, because it is this freedom which allows us to spread the gospel.  It is clear in scripture that this will eventually change, a one world government and a one world religion is coming, it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact.  So when you start deciding what others can say because you find it offensive, you are in fact surrendering your own rights and ushering in what will come.  If you don't believe that is true, you are going to find out sooner than later that you are wrong.  Unfortunately one of the side effects of freedom is allowing things that you would spend a lifetime opposing to exist, when you restrict that you are shooting yourself in the foot.  Try to set emotion aside and follow this out to its logical end, my argument is in defense of this site being able to exist so we can even have this discussion.

God bless

Isn't that what this board does?  how can you be a "watchman" for a forum that does the very thing you are warning us all against?  I cannot drop the F bomb in every post on this forum because the powers that be decided it was offensive.  And you are a part of that system, have you not then surrendered your own rights?

[LadyKay]

19 hours ago, Running Gator said:

And I applaud them for doing so in the same way I applaud Worthy for it standards, even when I think they are wrong!  

I use to work in retail and I wish my store would have ban some people.  This one guy came in and bought a cart load of  high dollar stuff like electronics and movies. After I rung it all up and told him the total which was a lot. He then proceeded to cuss me out for the total being so much as if I was the one who at put the items in his cart. When I told him I could remove some of the things off his bill that he did not want he cussed me out even more.  I called the manager over who told him to stop cussing me out. He paid the bill then left cussing all the way out the door.  A few days later his embarrassed wife came in an apologizes to me for her very rude husband. 

[wingnut-]

1 minute ago, Running Gator said:

Anything is possible, but at this point there is not a single case of such a thing happening.  

Personally, I think you are the one that is basing their reaction on emotion and not liberty.  I think that emotion is fear of what might "happen" one day.  

The 1st Amendment right of free speech has never been applied to private companies.   Places of employment have always had rules of conduit for their employees which included things not to say, and nobody every thought it was an attack on liberty.  If a private company cannot limit what is being said on their own property, that is a much bigger attack on liberty than this is.   

 

Lol, well, one of the complaints my ex wife had about me is that I am cold and indifferent, so I doubt anyone that knows me would agree with you on me being emotional, in fact they would probably laugh hysterically.  I am not afraid of anything other than a few phobias, like birds flying in close proximity to my head or not being fond of heights.  I am not afraid of what might happen because I know what is going to eventually happen.  I see people paving the way for it with open arms, liberty will die to the sound of applause no doubt.

As I also pointed out, here people can say anything at the work place, or in a restaurant, or anywhere else for that matter unless it is deemed a hate crime.  Nothing to that effect has been taken to the courts as of yet, but it is only a matter of time until someone pushes the issue.  If someone pushes the issue in your state they will most likely use the same argument that was used here in Michigan and win.  Even if they lose at the state level it can be pursued at the federal level and would most likely succeed there, which is what the SC in Michigan decided would be the case.

[gdemoss]

I believe in the freedom of speech but not in the freedom from consequences of that which has been spoken for God has said we are judged by every idle word we speak therefore we shall be quick to hear but slow to speak while keeping in mind that we are forgiven as we forgive.

Peace

[LadyKay]

17 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Walmart can restrict speech in their stores too all day long but it's not right and I don't like it.  And yes, if and when I choose to speak my mind I will and let the chips fall where they may.  It's just part of being American I guess.

That does not mean you wont reap the consequences of your speech. You tell your boss that they are a big fat looser and your going to get fired. 

[wingnut-]

9 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

Isn't that what this board does?  how can you be a "watchman" for a forum that does the very thing you are warning us all against?  I cannot drop the F bomb in every post on this forum because the powers that be decided it was offensive.  And you are a part of that system, have you not then surrendered your own rights?

 

We already covered this, several times.  This site has rules that everyone agrees to abide by when they first join, personally I have no problems with abiding by rules and regulations out of respect for authorities.  Not everyone agrees with me on that, as I'm sure you have experienced in life.

[wingnut-]

4 minutes ago, gdemoss said:

I believe in the freedom of speech but not in the freedom from consequences of that which has been spoken for God has said we are judged by every idle word we speak therefore we shall be quick to hear but slow to speak while keeping in mind that we are forgiven as we forgive.

Peace

 

Amen gde, well said.

[Running Gator]

3 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

Lol, well, one of the complaints my ex wife had about me is that I am cold and indifferent, so I doubt anyone that knows me would agree with you on me being emotional, in fact they would probably laugh hysterically.  

Cold and indifferent is an emotion, and typically a strong one at that.

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As I also pointed out, here people can say anything at the work place, or in a restaurant, or anywhere else for that matter unless it is deemed a hate crime.  Nothing to that effect has been taken to the courts as of yet, but it is only a matter of time until someone pushes the issue.  If someone pushes the issue in your state they will most likely use the same argument that was used here in Michigan and win.  Even if they lose at the state level it can be pursued at the federal level and would most likely succeed there, which is what the SC in Michigan decided would be the case.

I do not believe that is the case.  The story you gave dealt only with a government agency, not private companies.   

[LadyKay]

17 hours ago, wingnut- said:

The problem is, this is all being done slyly to lead to what is eventually coming, a complete halt to freedom for all, and I don't wish to assist in ushering in that world.

I'm confused You say you would be fine with her being escorted from the store for what she was saying. Yet you are  saying that Wal Mart ban her from the store is an attack on free speech. Wouldn't escorting her out of the store for what she said also be an attack on free speech?  Your talking in circles here.