Situational Ethics

[JohnD]

I fully admit the lust problem is mine. I have been a leg man as far back as I can remember.

But I believe most are agreed that it would be inappropriate for a woman to wear a bikini to a board meeting.

That being said, this Sunday at Church a young lass in her upper teens / early 20's wore to Church what was shorter than the pool wraps ladies used to wear going to and from a pool or the beach. 

My wife and I commented on it and because she was young we dismissed it as inexperience / attention getting.

Then we go into the service, in the praise team on stage is a woman who is in her 30s + with a short skirt who crossed her legs to give the audience a real peep show.

I know this topic has been discussed ad infinitum and IMHO what goes on out in the world is not ours to judge...

But if civilization / social order can (and does) discourage bikinis in the boardroom... ought we not ask for dequorum in Church?

 

[Guest Teditis]

Yes, I think so.

And the solution rests with the leadership of the church to set standards in place and enforce them.

[MorningGlory]

Yes, we SHOULD ask for decorum at church.  Speak to your pastor an an elder about this instead of confronting the offending parties directly.  They may just be clueless and it's the church board's job to set the standards.  I have seen tube tops and shorts in one church I went to and yes, it's inappropriate.  If that's all they have to wear, different story but that's seldom the case.   You're a man and, if you are noticing these things, stumbling blocks are being created here.

[JohnD]

Oh, we did not confront the ladies.

Our comments were kept to ourselves.

We are in fact visiting this Church and might not be in a position

to even speak to the pastor / elder.

I was just bringing up an old topic to (maybe) get folks who are in a position to ask... to ask...

[JohnD]

11 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

They may just be clueless

BTW we figured the first lady was / is... but the one on stage I get the impression knows very well what's going on (but I am not judging her motives).

Oftentimes ladies proceed from the aspect "it's my body, and their  problem..."  or "I should be able to wear what I want to..."

I actually have entered into discussions like this several years ago when I was a bit too legalistic in my walk...

My retort was "then I should have the right to smoke or belch in your face if you have the right to push that in mine."

I used to get such angry responses in those days... curious... LOL

 

[JohnD]

19 minutes ago, Teditis said:

Yes, I think so.

And the solution rests with the leadership of the church to set standards in place and enforce them.

Indeed.

But how few have the intestinal fortitude to do so.

[missmuffet]

36 minutes ago, JohnD said:

I fully admit the lust problem is mine. I have been a leg man as far back as I can remember.

But I believe most are agreed that it would be inappropriate for a woman to wear a bikini to a board meeting.

That being said, this Sunday at Church a young lass in her upper teens / early 20's wore to Church what was shorter than the pool wraps ladies used to wear going to and from a pool or the beach. 

My wife and I commented on it and because she was young we dismissed it as inexperience / attention getting.

Then we go into the service, in the praise team on stage is a woman who is in her 30s + with a short skirt who crossed her legs to give the audience a real peep show.

I know this topic has been discussed ad infinitum and IMHO what goes on out in the world is not ours to judge...

But if civilization / social order can (and does) discourage bikinis in the boardroom... ought we not ask for dequorum in Church?

 

I would discuss this matter with the Pastor. That is not proper attire in a Church. I sure have seen inappropriate attire in the Church. Disrespect of God and others who are attending that Church.

[HisFirst]

50 minutes ago, Teditis said:

Yes, I think so.

And the solution rests with the leadership of the church to set standards in place and enforce them.

100%.

It wouldn't be out of order to send a mature woman to have a talk with her. I think its the Church's duty to do that.

 

*It goes further than dress standards as well - snuggling, caressing, :  during  church service.

Yes, I've seen it.

Edited May 29, 2017 by HisFirst

[notsolostsoul]

1 Corinthians 8:13

13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.

We have the directions. Just need to figure best route of approach.

54 minutes ago, Teditis said:

And the solution rests with the leadership of the church to set standards in place and enforce them.

Agreed!

[Neighbor]

On stage for the praise singers- a simple modesty screen will often suffice.  

In general no man should walk up to any woman and start discussing her attire, or lack of it. That is a fools errand to be avoided.!!! Churches have deaconesses ( Or should). Using the Biblical model of the older women coming alongside of the younger, I'd suggest two or three deaconesses address the subject with the person that seems to be too short of clothing for the function  of corporate worship. They need to come armed with the world of God, their authority  in the church body, and some compassion,  being very specific so that there is no misunderstanding. They can also be welcoming at the same time. If there is  offense taken, well sometimes there is  what we call blessed subtraction. let the offending person leave, or if necessary force them  out of future services unil they repent of this offense.

Edited May 30, 2017 by Neighbor