sniper shooting in vegas

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, other one said:

I would be much more interested in the laying on the bed screaming for God to help him....   that takes me places that I really would not want to go, and the police and the news media would never accept...

That's what I thought too; I think that something like that would scare ME into calling for help. 

[MorningGlory]

2 minutes ago, Kris said:

Investigators say mystery woman seen with Vegas gunman is a hooker

By Laura Italiano October 6, 2017 | 8:31pm           

The mystery woman seen with Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock days before the massacre has been identified, at least by profession — she’s a prostitute.

Investigators have not revealed the woman’s name, but told ABC News that she was a hooker.

Officials have yet to uncover Paddock’s motive in carting 24 weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo in suitcases into his suite at the Mandalay Bay last weekend.

Firing from his windows, he claimed nearly 60 lives and injured some 500 others at an outdoor concert Sunday night.

Paddock had earlier paid for his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, to travel to visit her family in the Philippines, and wired her $100,000 so she could buy a house there.

Investigators have confirmed that Danley had no idea he was plotting a mass shooting.

They also do not believe he had accomplices.

Whoever the mystery hooker might be, she was not believed to have been in his room in the hours before the shootings.

“He was the only shooter; I’m confident of that,” based on casino surveillance cameras, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Undersheriff Kevin McMahill told NBC News on Friday.

“I’m also confident that there were no other people in the room leading up to this event,” McMahill said.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/06/mystery-woman-seen-with-vegas-gunman-is-a-hooker/

 

Not sure why this had to be reported at all.  Unless she was in that room when he committed this horrible crime, she's irrelevant to anything.

[Kris]

1 minute ago, MorningGlory said:

Not sure why this had to be reported at all.  Unless she was in that room when he committed this horrible crime, she's irrelevant to anything.

I'm assuming with interest circulating around who the woman was, the authorities thought it relevant to state her occupation and discount her from the investigation. Process of elimination, perhaps normal investigative stuff? Hmmm

[brakelite]

On 06/10/2017 at 12:56 PM, brakelite said:

haven't read all 29 pages, so forgive me if this question is a repeat.

To any military servicemen on this group. I know something of firearms, me being a hunter in my younger years and my father and grandfather being gunsmiths and both expert marksmen. But I know nothing of heavy caliber automatic weapons of the type used in this attack. So, my question. Could a64 yo unfit inexperienced retired accountant with no military training whatsoever pull this off alone?

Second question, if not, then who, and could it be possible that that responsible person did the damage leaving a dead body as a patsy? 

Posted and asked this ⬆⬆a couple pages back, would really like some answers. Any servicemen got some good sound knowledge that can answer the above? 24 weapons and several hundred rounds of ammo is a heck of a weight for an unfit older fella. And the knowledge base? How did he know how to dismantle and assemble weapons for transport through a casino hotel of all places!!

[Kris]

1 hour ago, brakelite said:

Posted and asked this ⬆⬆a couple pages back, would really like some answers. Any servicemen got some good sound knowledge that can answer the above? 24 weapons and several hundred rounds of ammo is a heck of a weight for an unfit older fella. And the knowledge base? How did he know how to dismantle and assemble weapons for transport through a casino hotel of all places!!

My opinion only, Yes, he could have. I can only comment on those weapons I've seen in the online photos on various news websites, AR15/M4's or similar military style assault rifles can be broken down, pull out two pins and the weapon is effectively half its size. Most would fit into a suitcase without having to break them down though, depending on length of the barrel, 7" or 10" etc. The shorter the barrel, the less accurate at extended ranges though.

A standard "liner" of 5.56mm is 1000 rounds all packed into a small metal container, roughly the same size as a shoebox, but obviously heavier.

Stripping and assembling these types weapons, especially the bolt carrier, does take a little know-how. There are 100's of instructional video's online that he may have used to learn. 

Packing the weapons into a suitcase/s, wheeling them into a foyer then taking a lift up to the 32nd floor is no mean feat.

I have no doubt he could have done this alone, without help. However, marksmanship (shooting) is something that takes training and practise. I would suggest he's had some form of training, whether self taught through books, video's etc or one on one with someone whose experienced in the use of firearms. Basically, I have zero doubt he has fired these weapons prior to the attack, whether at a range or in some isolated area away from public eye.

His use of weapon mounted sights is another indication of some form of training. On the weapons I've seen, he has a scope and on another he has a red-dot sight or what looks to be a Trijicon. My point here, weapon sights need to be zeroed onto the target, he would need to know his point-of-aim at different ranges. Weapon sights are not just simply bought, put onto the weapon then away you go...they need to be zeroed at a range in conjunction with live firing.

Lastly, I believe he was engaging the crowd from a distance of 200-300m's, with full automatic fire. Auto fire isn't the most accurate method at those ranges, but with his use of a bipod (the two legs attached to the weapon to provide stability), and the size of the target, he's rated his chances of getting effective fire on target. My point - he has trained for this, he knew his odds of success. 

Hope this helps.

Addition - He chose an elevated position with multiple firing points, allowing him differing fields of view and fire. High-ground is always advantageous, this guy has possibly done some study on Military Doctrine, I cant see another explanation for how well set up and prepared he was.

Edited October 7, 2017 by Kris

[brakelite]

25 minutes ago, Kris said:

My opinion only, Yes, he could have. I can only comment on those weapons I've seen in the online photos on various news websites, AR15/M4's or similar military style assault rifles can be broken down, pull out two pins and the weapon is effectively half its size. Most would fit into a suitcase without having to break them down though, depending on length of the barrel, 7" or 10" etc. The shorter the barrel, the less accurate at extended ranges though.

A standard "liner" of 5.56mm is 1000 rounds all packed into a small metal container, roughly the same size as a shoebox, but obviously heavier.

Stripping and assembling these types weapons, especially the bolt carrier, does take a little know-how. There are 100's of instructional video's online that he may have used to learn. 

Packing the weapons into a suitcase/s, wheeling them into a foyer then taking a lift up to the 32nd floor is no mean feat.

I have no doubt he could have done this alone, without help. However, marksmanship (shooting) is something that takes training and practise. I would suggest he's had some form of training, whether self taught through books, video's etc or one on one with someone whose experienced in the use of firearms. Basically, I have zero doubt he has fired these weapons prior to the attack, whether at a range or in some isolated area away from public eye.

His use of weapon mounted sights is another indication of some form of training. On the weapons I've seen, he has a scope and on another he has a red-dot sight or what looks to be a Trijicon. My point here, weapon sights need to be zeroed onto the target, he would need to know his point-of-aim at different ranges. Weapon sights are not just simply bought, put onto the weapon then away you go...they need to be zeroed at a range in conjunction with live firing.

Lastly, I believe he was engaging the crowd from a distance of 200-300m's, with full automatic fire. Auto fire isn't the most accurate method at those ranges, but with his use of a bipod (the two legs attached to the weapon to provide stability), and the size of the target, he's rated his chances of getting effective fire on target. My point - he has trained for this, he knew his odds of success. 

Hope this helps.

Thanks. Yes, a big target despite the added difficulty of a descending trajectory which affects accuracy. 

I agree that he had to have had some form of practice...how he did so considering the heavy caliber of gun...the numbers...without attracting the attention of anyone....arms retailers/neighbors/friends/ etceludes me.

As for motive? That's actually the easy part. He may not have been an alt-right card-carrying antifa extremist....
He may not have been a left wing socialist Trump hater....
He may not have been a government CIA stool pigeon...
Or an Illuminati Satan worshiper...
Or a UN Luciferian Jesuit Marxist/Leninist revolutionary Zionist libertarian narcisisstic anarchist....
he may not have even been insane....
But what he was, and fulfilling every single purpose of any one of the above, he was, without any shadow of doubt, demon possessed. Which explains motive and continues the same narrative being played out in society the world over...divide: create conflict,confusion,divided loyalties, debate, rub sides against one another creating friction...spark...fire. Antithesis/thesis. Then have your chosen One to step in and put the fire out. Synthesis. Antichrist. 

Society is being conned and manipulated by proponents of globalism and the NWO and Satan, if he can't use agencies to do his bidding such as ISIS or the Vatican or the CIIA,  He will do it personally. Either way folks it isn't a time to point fingers and play their blame game...stay out of the politics which is their home ground, and cleave to your Savior. Your only hope.

Edited October 7, 2017 by brakelite

[ayin jade]

1 hour ago, brakelite said:

Posted and asked this ⬆⬆a couple pages back, would really like some answers. Any servicemen got some good sound knowledge that can answer the above? 24 weapons and several hundred rounds of ammo is a heck of a weight for an unfit older fella. And the knowledge base? How did he know how to dismantle and assemble weapons for transport through a casino hotel of all places!!

Youtube

[Kris]

1 hour ago, brakelite said:

Thanks. Yes, a big target despite the added difficulty of a descending trajectory which affects accuracy. 

Your welcome. Yes, 200 - 300m isn't a difficult shot at a body sized target let alone a sea of people with those weapon systems, even with taking trajectory into account. He was also obviously comfortable there would be sufficient enough lighting. As the saying goes "time spent on reconnaissance is time well spent", he had obviously done his.

1 hour ago, brakelite said:

I agree that he had to have had some form of practice...how he did so considering the heavy caliber of gun...the numbers...without attracting the attention of anyone....arms retailers/neighbors/friends/ etceludes me.

Not sure if 5.56 or 7.62mm (civilian equivalent - 223 and 308) is considered heavy calibre, I guess it probably would be in the civilian world. I would regard .30 or .50cal and up as heavy but I guess that really doesn't matter...anything from 5.56mm and up at those ranges would have sufficed. But yes I agree, its extremely odd that he hasn't been found to be a member of a shooting club or attended some sort of weapons tutelage course over the years and is difficult to comprehend. 

1 hour ago, brakelite said:

As for motive? That's actually the easy part.

Spiritually speaking, I totally agree, whatever was in his heart and mind and whatever his own reasoning for committing such an act was indeed pure evil. That's a given.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

Edited October 7, 2017 by Kris
spelling correction

[brakelite]

11 minutes ago, Kris said:

Not sure if 5.56 or 7.62mm (civilian equivalent - 223 and 308) is considered heavy calibre, I guess it probably would be in the civilian world. I would regard .30 or .50cal and up as heavy but I guess that really doesn't matter

I would not consider .308 heavy no...used a sawn off .308 pig hunting a life-time ago.

But I haven't seen a detailed inventory of what was found. I was going by some of the video clips and what sounded like .50 caliber. 

Which is really why I was asking these questions.

Edited October 7, 2017 by brakelite

[brakelite]

Copied from fb friend poses some interesting challenges....

 

1. Photos of several windows missing from lower floors. Consistent with iPhone videos of Taxi Driver and others showing gun flashes seen from lower floors. And consistent with reports of tow or mare machine guns of different make firing simultaneously. 

2. Guest in Room next to Paddock’s 32 floor room FAST ASLEEP during shooting! and woken by swat team and told to leave before they broke into Paddock’s room. 

3. None of the guests below or above Paddock’s  32 second floor or guests in the 31st or 33rd floors (heard?) or called front desk about shooting  poses above or below them.

4. Swat team photos of the dead Paddock show new fresh bullets ON TOP OF THE BLOOD around his head.  Not possible if he was a lone shutter or shot himself through the mouth.

5. Every inch of the Mandalay and it’s hall ways are installed with security cameras and watched in a command room 24-7 but no one in security saw Paddock install security cameras outside of the room he booked to alert him of anyone’s approach to his room.

6. None of the staff has made a statement of what they may have seen or heard during the 10 minutes of shooting? Gag order by FBI or Antifa supporting CEO? 

7. Another JKF cover up of Deep State involvement with a fall Guy?

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