Why so much Hate between the Churches/Religions that follow Christ?

[notsolostsoul]

13 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

What Bible are you reading ?

The bible, and I mean don't call them liars, as to them saying they follow Christ or don't follow Christ.

Man can not judge another's relationship with God, so why call him a liar or not a true believer.

The Pharisees thought that even Jesus wasn't a true follower and we see where it got them.

To call another a cult without really knowing where those followers stand with God is something people should think twice about.

[Justin Adams]

6 minutes ago, OneLight said:

but if I start saying they are a false teacher, stupid, not saved, just to bolster my stance, it is an attack on the person they are responding to.  In today's world, it is so easy to spit out demeaning words as we hide behind an anonymous username, saying things we would not to a persons face

Brilliant. Thank you.

When a comment IS PERSONAL, then I will object since some brow-beat others too often and get away with it.

I sometimes walk away, which is sad because the 'inquisitors' among us then think they have the last word. However, Holy Spirit says to walk sometimes...

Edited November 9, 2017 by Justin Adams
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[simplejeff]

4 minutes ago, existential mabel said:

is there one good remanent left? indeed was there ever such a thing? 

YES,  you can find the remnant, the true believers immersed in Jesus' Name, LIVING AS HE SAYS IN HIS WORD,

Yahweh Willing According to His Word. (not relying on the internet though).

 

"There is none good but Elohim Echad (God)" as Jesus says in BIBLE,

 and yes, you can find the evidence, the truth, from Scripture, and from men called and chosen by GOD,

in the worthychristianlibrary.com

without all the

5 minutes ago, existential mabel said:

busy arguing scripture all the time and needing to have the last word and so its never ending.

IF you want to.  (You don't have to look nor find the true believers if you don't want to).

As Yahweh's Word Says,  "seek His Kingdom, and keep seeking His Kingdom"  and you will find it.

This is still as true today as it was in the Garden of Eden,

and possibly in people's experience it will remain true through the years of persecution and tribulation for those who love Him, who are called according to His Purpose.  

(Realize that for some, who give up seeking, it never happens, just as His Word Declares) .....

 

[simplejeff]

On 11/9/2017 at 9:52 AM, notsolostsoul said:

The bible, and I mean don't call them liars, as to them saying they follow Christ or don't follow Christ.

Man can not judge another's relationship with God, so why call him a liar or not a true believer.

Well,  I sort of was wondering what Bible you read,  maybe what translation,

What do you want to call liars today ?

Those who preach and teach and live under a FALSE GOSPEL, what would you call them today ?

Why call them any different than Jesus and His followers did ?

 

[simplejeff]

7 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

I often walk away, which is sad because the 'inquisitors' among us then think they have the last word. However, Holy Spirit says to walk sometimes...

Yes,  as the enemy "wears out the saints" as the enemy is permitted to post ad infinitum (without end, it seems at least).

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In the assemblies of born again saints (ekklesia),  they do not permit the enemy to speak, and especially NOT to continue speaking false gospels,  or anything contrary to the Father's Will/ Word/ Purpose and Plan in Jesus.

Order (in a few places on earth and on the internet)  is maintained so that the enemy cannot continually be sowing his seed (heresy, etc) to the weak and young believers, and the seekers who want to find Yahweh's Kingdom here and now.

On the internet and in the world,  this Scriptural decency and order is not usually done (or only in a few places) ...

[Justin Adams]

There is much that one can share to perhaps enhance other's understanding. If put wrongly, or incorrectly, it is fine to be approachable and teachable. Swapping Christian ideas and experiences is to be embraced.

However, when one is BOMBARDED with 'error naming', 'heresy accusations', 'false teacher' names and actually threatened with 'you will be opposed on this site' and 'I will see to it you are stopped'...  Well things like that just should not happen. A free public site in a free nation should not be plagued by this kind of totalitarian attitude.

It is as if the 'thought police' actually make any difference, other than force closure of topics.

Those with Yahweh's Truth cannot be silenced by threats. And if these ideas are merely from man, or just mistakes, then they will fall to the ground anyway. Why give 'supposed error', or 'wrong doctrine' such a pivotal and elevated position of power? Surely it is a little like Steadying The Ark.

[notsolostsoul]

8 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

What do you want to call liars today ?

Those who are sons of the devil,  what would you call them today ?

There is no need for me to call them anything. I bring them the word, if they can not hear it or choose to not hear it. I leave. Dust my sandals off and let God deal with them come the day of Judgement.

[Justin Adams]

One more point I think to make.

When our Savior walked the earth, He could see the hearts of man. When He called someone a Liar, it was because they were a Liar.
Not necessarily so with us today. I would hate to pass such a judgement so quickly unless absolutely sure...  Even then, I might pray that The Lord convict them, lest I make a mistake and speak out of turn thus causing harm and perhaps another to stumble.

Sounding the Trumpet and warning is not the same as calling people liars, or heretics.

[Neighbor]

All I know is I have been blessed as an Independent Baptist, as a Church of Christ attendee,  as a New Covenant Church member, and as a member of a Community Church. Some have embraced some odd policies and undertandings, yet each love our Lord Jesus and do their best to share of Him with an unsaved world. I have received and shared labor and fellowship in Christ Jesus at each  local body of Jesus' church.

It is such a marvel. The only time I failed was a period of time when I decided I could be a church of one, and not be involved with any local gathering at all. That's when I suffered to my greater shame.

On Christian message Boards I have been called "the village idiot" ( my absolute favorite insult to have received, from an avowed atheist ). I was also called for years a "heretic and a messenger of satan" from a dear Pentecostal sister in the Lord. She died still praying for me, a kindness from her born of an odd  recipe, but appreciated by me.

I have no time for hate, I learned long ago from an excellent Christian man that friendship is unilateral, it needs no reciprocation. To love only those that love us is not much of an accomplishment, fact it is no accomplishment at all.

 If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much.  If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that.  But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect. -from a famous sermon

Edited November 9, 2017 by Neighbor

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, Justin Adams said:

One more point I think to make.

When our Savior walked the earth, He could see the hearts of man. When He called someone a Liar, it was because they were a Liar.
Not necessarily so with us today.

Later today maybe,  I'll post the Scripture where it says to both SAY and DO as the FATHER SAYS and DOES, ALL THE TIME.

For example,  HOW did Jesus say that simon bar jonah (Peter) KNEW that Jesus Christ IS Christ, the Messiah, the Son of Yahweh ?

(hint: NOT by education.  NOT by learning from his dad, mom, brother , sister,

or EVEN from JESUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) (that really is a surprise to the unborns)

Second hint:  What did Yahweh Proclaim THRU Yochanan the immerser is necessary for any man to understand anything (to receive anything) ?