Last Daze Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,987 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said: Not rome,for when John wrote revelation he said it "now is not". The world thought it was dead and yet it is. Rome, as it was manifested in the natural realm, was still in power. True. But the evil angel which spawned Rome was already cast into the abyss and "was not" when John wrote Revelation. You have to give greater consideration to what goes on in the spiritual realm, because what we see here on earth is in effect caused by what happens there. It's how the legs of iron and the feet of iron and clay of Daniel 2 can be considered as the fourth kingdom and exist nearly two thousand years apart from each other. They have the same spiritual source, the beast with 10 horns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,682 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24635/Default.aspx Why does the king of the Jews want a cashless society?How will he be able to keep up with all the buying and selling? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,682 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Last Daze said: Rome, as it was manifested in the natural realm, was still in power. True. But the evil angel which spawned Rome was already cast into the abyss and "was not" when John wrote Revelation. You have to give greater consideration to what goes on in the spiritual realm, because what we see here on earth is in effect caused by what happens there. It's how the legs of iron and the feet of iron and clay of Daniel 2 can be considered as the fourth kingdom and exist nearly two thousand years apart from each other. They have the same spiritual source, the beast with 10 horns. Actually ,when John wrote revelation.The nation that calls itself Israel was not.And yet it is.The world was astonished (who's names are not written in the lambs book of life)when,they beheld it,and wanders after it. These are facts.Cold hard facts and there are many just like them. Edited November 11, 2017 by Shilohsfoal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,682 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 17 hours ago, Keras said: In no way is the Israeli government of the Jewish State of Israel, or are 99% of the people, who God wants in His holy Land. Read Isaiah 3:1-26 for what will happen to them very soon. This fate is reiterated in many other prophesies. The Land will be cleared and cleansed of all the ungodly peoples, only a remnant of the Messianic Jews will survive in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:1-4 Then a people who bear the proper fruit, Matthew 21:42, every faithful Christian; will migrate into all of the holy Land. WE will be the people whom God always wanted in His Land, His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and the Light to the nations. Isaiah 49:8 Great will be the Day! Romans 9:24-26 I agree 100 percent.But you need to realize who and what they are that are there now. Who is their king? http://biblehub.com/amos/5-26.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,682 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 http://biblehub.com/revelation/17-8.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,987 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said: Actually ,when John wrote revelation.The nation that calls itself Israel was not.And yet it is.The world was astonished (who's names are not written in the lambs book of life)when,they beheld it,and wanders after it. These are facts.Cold hard facts and there are many just like them. I'm not so sure that the whole world was astonished and wondered after Israel when they supposedly "came up out of the abyss", but you're entitled to your views. Facts? No, facts are as God declares them. What you stated is your opinion based on your perception. The best we can hope to do is to align our perception of reality with what God declares to be true. Don't get stuck in a rut. Edited November 11, 2017 by Last Daze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,682 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Last Daze said: I'm not so sure that the whole world was astonished and wondered after Israel when they supposedly "came up out of the abyss", but you're entitled to your views. Facts? No, facts are as God declares them. What you stated is your opinion based on your perception. The best we can hope to do is to align our perception of reality with what God declares to be true. Don't get stuck in a rut. No.This past history is fact. The nation that calls itself Israel once existed,but did not exist at the time John wrote revelation,and yet it does now. The world was astonished and wanderd who's names are not written in the lambs book of life when they beheld the nation that calls itself Israel . They followed it from all over the world.Peoples,multitudes,nations and languages. http://biblehub.com/revelation/17-15.htm This is now and it is a common known fact. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel (ethnic and religious groups) There are many other facts you are unaware of. Edited November 11, 2017 by Shilohsfoal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 Israel is not affiliated with the beast This beast is a fallen angel that has been around since the kingdom of Magog and related to the 7 kingdoms given in prophetic scripture [Magog, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and the Seleucid kingdom of Antiochus IV These 5 have fallen and the beast is currently in the abyss [Revelation 9:11] .... he is also the king of the fallen angels kept in the abyss He will be released to rule over the 6th and 7th kingdoms during the coming tribulation period [Revelation 13:1-4] His master is Satan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2017 As so often happens on open forums , open to the world, whenever a lot of people bring the teachings of another group to post them, instead of seeking the Truth ,instead of seeking Yahweh's Kingdom, instead of abiding in Jesus, instead of the teachings of the GOSPEL OF JESUS, OF SALVATION, there can only be confusion and more people led astray. To find the TRUTH, seek YAHWEH and HIS KINGDOM. Read the BIBLE , not forums, if you don't want to be further confused. Testing everything, read the worthychristianlibrary.com, where there is Scriptural lessons, truth without confusion, without arguing and without bickering and without heresy like you every day find on forums.... WORTHYCHRISTIANLIBRARY.COM is peaceful, joyous, righteous leading to JESUS, HIS WAY, YAHWEH'S WAY. Still always test everything before accepting it, keep testing until proven true. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted November 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 150 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,682 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yowm said: The Scriptures indicate that they would return to the Land in unbelief (otherwise why would they enter into a Covenant with Death? sparking the 7 yr trib). In unbelief...no one is saying the Israeli govt. is made up of angelic beings lol. But God will turn many hearts of the Jews back to Himself as we are already beginning to see some of that happening through the Messianic movement in Israel. And those who are chosen Will not worship the beast or receive his mark.Many of those messianic Israelis will die for their testimony ,they will be resurrected and Israel will reign with Christ for 1000 years in,peace. As for the Israeli government.It is the beast. Edited November 11, 2017 by Shilohsfoal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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