Lead us not into translations: Pope thinks Lord’s Prayer could be improved

[frienduff thaylorde]

4 minutes ago, other one said:

Obviously I don't belong here....  

Other one no one is running you off.  We are just exhausted with the evil that continuously pours out of Rome.

Imagine , just imagine for a  second HOW GOD must feel about the interfaith dump dung pile this man leads in.

DO you truly know what this means.   THEY TRAMPLING UNDER FOOT JESUS as the ONLY WAY , they making all his sufferings for us , SEEM as not necessary.

THIS has got to be about the last straw with GOD .  they mocking CHRIST . this , this is so evil. 

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 minutes ago, other one said:

and that is what the Pope is asking to change it to.....    so you agree with him also.  Because what you have in the <> isn't what the sentence says.

 

I wont defend this pope even when he does speak truths.  No false prophet lies all the time.  they always speak some truths.

how else do they deceive.  they appear as RIGHTEOUS, they appear as christain in heart . 

Even the wicked spirit of divination in that lady, SPOKE TRUTH.  it said THESE men come to show us the way, etc

YET PUAL REBUKED IT .   even devils can call him LORD.   WE know thee who you are the HOLY one of GOD. 

they weren't lying then were they.   Yet it was demons .  The devils do believe and even tremble,   but they DO NOT FOLLOW HIM.

nor does this pope.   but on that note nor do many others also.   

[other one]

3 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Other one no one is running you off.  We are just exhausted with the evil that continuously pours out of Rome.

Imagine , just imagine for a  second HOW GOD must feel about the interfaith dump dung pile this man leads in.

DO you truly know what this means.   THEY TRAMPLING UNDER FOOT JESUS as the ONLY WAY , they making all his sufferings for us , SEEM as not necessary.

THIS has got to be about the last straw with GOD .  they mocking CHRIST . this , this is so evil. 

I don't disagree with what you are saying,    but I'm saying that we should not be so caught up in our thinking that we can't listen to someone when they are right about something......   I find that about as frightening as those things you are speaking of here.    Just so you will know, that verse has bothered me since I was about ten years old when I first read it...

[other one]

10 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Other one no one is running you off.  

I didn't mean that I was being run off....    just that I don't belong in this kind of a discussion....   hard not to point out personal failures in others and that hurts friendships.....    so I leave.

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, other one said:

I don't disagree with what you are saying,    but I'm saying that we should not be so caught up in our thinking that we can't listen to someone when they are right about something......   I find that about as frightening as those things you are speaking of here.    Just so you will know, that verse has bothered me since I was about ten years old when I first read it...

But that is how it seduces.  believe me this aint my mission.  To go out in the world and start accusing the pope as being a liar , due to THIS

WOULD harm my testimony.   IF a man speaks truth and yet is false and believe me they all do.   I keep warning out against them. 

This man is master of deception.   cause he even preaches truths , like feed the poor , be humble etc.........yet how false he truly is.

Thus I don't care when he says truths.  HE gets warned out against .  HE aint doing this because its right to do so.  HE does it for other reasons.

I wont get caught up in this.  In fact , what did I spend most my time warning out against even here.  THE ALL INCLUSIVE LIE from hell.  

I truly want no man to follow this man nor any who knows not CHRIST . 

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, other one said:

I didn't mean that I was being run off....    just that I don't belong in this kind of a discussion....   hard not to point out personal failures in others and that hurts friendships.....    so I leave.

I understand.   I do.   You done made the point.  so now lets warn out against the all inclusive monster of the pope and many others.

 

[other one]

2 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I understand.   I do.   You done made the point.  so now lets warn out against the all inclusive monster of the pope and many others.

 

I think we have done that....   but if I tell you all I know about the Pope, some Catholics here will sic the mods on us....

[frienduff thaylorde]

7 minutes ago, other one said:

I think we have done that....   but if I tell you all I know about the Pope, some Catholics here will sic the mods on us....

Oh.   okay.   well be blessed and praise the Lord. 

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

yeah they spend all their energy debating trespasses versus debts

.  and here is the thing. ITS THE SAME THING .  get over it .  I mean good night .

one reads debts and another read trespasses.  MEANS the same thing .  it was just how it was worded .

but this pope is a wolf in wool.   And sadly most the wool aint on his body,  its in his teeth and many still say....HEY its a lamb, its teeth are covered with wool. 

yeah go figure .

 

Get over it was not the option in 1955 when the township and the school systems were at battle over this issue of tremendous import at Massachusetts anyway. I still remember my home room teacher standing and demanding that we now change the way we pray each day at school because it had been decided we must change our official way of saying a prayer. One that most of us had no problem parroting regardless for it was just the daily parroting of things  we had to do. The only kid who wouldn't was a Jehovah's Witness. He took heat every morning for not standing for the pledge prayer and anthem. If one is not reciting the prayer in Aramaic God doesn't listen anyway. So what variables one wishes to make in English  is a vain argument don't you think?

PS there are several "Aramaic Only" videos for you on the internet. 

Edited December 8, 2017 by Neighbor

[lastofall]

[for me anyway] it is of none effect what the bishop of Rome's view is: rather we ought to be listening to and submitting to and relying upon only what the Lord Jesus Christ says, and not to another: for except we learn not to think above that which is written, we shall endlessly be in exaggeration and over-estimation.