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[frienduff thaylorde]

4 hours ago, missmuffet said:

That is true if a person gets drunk it is harming their judgment and it affects their ability to function. It could be dangerous for someone to get into their car and drive away when drunk. Also drinking a lot can damage your health. The medical profession is saying now that even one drink a day can cause cancer. It can damage your stomach and pancreas. It can run havoc with diabetes and it can put a lot of weight on a person. Alcohol is a drug. A person who drinks often very well could be self medicating themselves.

But if a person has an  occasional drink I do not think that would be too harmful such as a glass of wine at Thanksgiving dinner and or a drink at Christmas.

All that lady muffet has said is true.   now for the real grave side .    Drunkards wont inherit the KINGODOM of GOD.     Just a wee bit of gravity to help keep us reminded

to not be partaker of other mens sins.     Keep thyself pure .    as paul told timothy .    

[missmuffet]

8 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

All that lady muffet has said is true.   now for the real grave side .    Drunkards wont inherit the KINGODOM of GOD.     Just a wee bit of gravity to help keep us reminded

to not be partaker of other mens sins.     Keep thyself pure .    as paul told timothy .    

Any one who is an alcoholic will not go to heaven? That is debatable.

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, missmuffet said:

Any one who is an alcoholic will not go to heaven? That is debatable.

NO .  I did not say that .   their are many alcoholics which NO LONGER DRINK or GET DRUNK.

JESUS can set any one free from any power of darkness.  and that is a fact.   I promise it is.   

they must SUBMIT TO GOD , RESIST the DEVIL and he will FLEE .     LET us preach a gospel OF POWER .  amen.  

[other one]

I can see that not many people understand alcoholics and drunkards...   two totally different beasts with different causes...

[frienduff thaylorde]

2 minutes ago, other one said:

I can see that not many people understand alcoholics and drunkards...   two totally different beasts with different causes...

See it as any sin.   If we will truly submit to GOD , resist the devil , HE WILL FLEE. the power of darkness holds no power against the LIGHT.

this goes with any sin .   IF when the temptation strikes we fall to our KNEES TO GOD , submitting , and RESIST the devils temptation.   HE WILL FLEE

GOD gives us power over any temptation.    We are not powerless IF WE HAVE CHRIST and once we KNOW THIS ,   AMEN.  ONWARD

and yes I do know about both alcoholics and just drunks.   Just let it sink in.   I aint condemning anyone , I just show the way out .  CHRIST .

 

[missmuffet]

7 minutes ago, other one said:

I can see that not many people understand alcoholics and drunkards...   two totally different beasts with different causes...

What is the difference in a drunkard and an alcoholic? Drunkards don't have to go to meetings?

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

What is the difference in a drunkard and an alcoholic? Drunkards don't have to go to meetings?

Technically its close .  experts would try and say they the same.  one just wont admit they have a problem.

However looking closer I can say I was  a drunkard , drank got drunk in the marines , but could go days without it.

course the social alocohlic is what they would say I was.   I think the hardcore alcoholic has become so addicted they

cant stop.  my brother was more of that type .  He would drink every day and could not put it down.

You know what.  CHRIST SET US BOTH FREE.    yeah.   WHEN I say that if we truly submit to GOD , resist the devil,  HE WILL FLEE>

Its been said ALCOHOLISM is perhaps the most addictive and hardest to quit drug .    BUT IN CHRIST IT CAN BE OVERCOME .  I PROMISE .

 

[missmuffet]

Lets define what is an excessive drinker.

Women who consume 8 or more drinks a week are considered excessive drinkers. A red flag is up here.

Men who consume 15 or more drinks a week are considered excessive drinkers. A red flag is up here.

That can also be the "binge" drinker who is sober during the week but only drinks on the weekend.

[missmuffet]

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

Lets define what is an excessive drinker.

Women who consume 8 or more drinks a week are considered excessive drinkers. A red flag is up here.

Men who consume 15 or more drinks a week are considered excessive drinkers. A red flag is up here.

That can also be the "binge" drinker who is sober during the week but only drinks on the weekend.

One said it well.  Go after they traditions and they will attack.  NOT ME SISTER , keep on keeping on.    WE don't make excuse for sin

we don't make excuse why its okay to Get the occasional drunk on etc.    BIG RED FLAGS IN THOSE STUDIES SISTER.    YOU RIGHT ON .  BIG RED FLAGS.

but then ITS THE WORLD saying what is okay and what aint.  and sis , we aint heeding mans advice, no sirs , no mams.  WE HEED GODS advice.

BIG red flag is spot on sister.  cause many will say................well if its just on the weekened I can drink my eight or fifteen.   LIE .  but people tell themselves what SELF wants to hear

BUT we by grace shall hear the SPIRIT which says...........DIE FLESH DIE .........I  aint heeding you .  amen.