What is the Mark of the Beast

[TheMatrixHasU71]

On 12/27/2017 at 9:32 PM, brakelite said:

Second, because the basic fundamental teachings of my church are Biblically sound.

NO they are not. Good golly people we have shown you the facts about the lies of the SDA again and again and again and I can show you even more. WAKE UP already for your judgment is coming and faster than you know. 

[TheMatrixHasU71]

On 12/27/2017 at 9:49 PM, brakelite said:

Those reformers, from Wycliffe to Spurgeon, were not only in full agreement, they were right, and many of them died because of their truthful testimony, and now so many trample upon the blood they spilt because of that testimony by denying the very truths they proclaimed. 

Wycliffe and Spurgeon would not have supported the heresies of the SDA church. 

[TheMatrixHasU71]

On 12/27/2017 at 11:03 AM, Heleadethme said:

Well at 60 I would like to have that gift too if I had my druthers.........but some have a gift of weakness instead, the Lord in His wisdom

This is a bit off track here but I couldnt help but remember a story I once read about a 93 year old Shaolin Temple monk who could still do a three finger handstand. All I could think of is how much I would love to be able to do that when I am his age. 

[Heleadethme]

4 hours ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

No ,that restrainer is the church. For the antichrist, though s/he is certainly waiting in the wings right now, cannot begin to rule, while the strongman of the house is still here. Remember what Jesus said...

Matthew 12:29 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

Which actually cannot happen unless that strong man was GONE

 

Mabel, I read Ch. 12 and didn't understand how it connected to he who restrains, unless you would like to expand on it.  But remember the story of Eli and how he failed to restrain his sons.......resulting in the glory departing Israel (ichabod) (1 Sam. 3 and 4).  If we let scripture interpret itself, i believe we have a picture of what it means when the restrainer is taken away.  Maybe it will become more clear as time goes on, but that does seem to be what is happening now in the church too, by observation.  The Holy Spirit is grieved and leaving the house of God and the people.  This leaves no wall of protection......how the Lord by His Spirit normally acts as a wall of fire around His church "Jerusalem"......unfortunately His glory/spirit leaving means the church has no protection and is wide open vulnerable to every attack of deception and plague of sins......in judgment.

[Heleadethme]

3 hours ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

This is a bit off track here but I couldnt help but remember a story I once read about a 93 year old Shaolin Temple monk who could still do a three finger handstand. All I could think of is how much I would love to be able to do that when I am his age. 

I chuckle at the thought of me doing a three fingered hand-stand, I would need fingers of steel........come to think of it I doubt I could have even done that when I was younger and skinnier!   

[Dennis1209]

On 12/22/2017 at 2:52 PM, secretopossumcabal said:

The Mark of the Beast is likely going to come through a massive false flag, and the government is going to demand we give up our rights for "protection" in order to install the mark of the beast. What do you have to hide, after all? You're not a terrorist...are you? But before all of this happens the satanic cabal still needs to wrestle more control of this world, in order to do this, borders will have to come down and the world will need a much stronger central authority. I think we're currently at the "borders must be torn down" part, which works perfectly well with Muslims as they bring their extremism with them, giving the government the excuse they needs to rob us of our rights.  

Anywhose I just hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime, it's going to be one crazy gauntlet for the Christians of that age, but perhaps their luck will be that they get to see the Christ on his white horse.   

You see it happening too? I've been watching, paying attention and studying this for years myself. 

Just to expand a bit. Trump unexpectedly won the election that the global elite didn't expect, causing a temporary delay in their global agenda. I think this is the major reason the liberals and elite are throwing everything they have at him. Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear can watch the study progression into a one world global system over the last few decades. The U.S. is still one of the worlds few remaining holdouts to join the club, via these trade treaties and global climate agreements. Which if read completely, have little or anything to do with the title of the bill / agreement as usual. 

The United States still remaining one of the worlds super powers, I say that because we are no longer "the worlds only super power", but that's another topic. Three things remain before the U.S. is sucked into the one world system. And if you have not noticed, these are where they are tackling the hardest.

(1) The U.S. can not be a sovereign nation. A nation is defined as having borders, that are controlled, restricted and enforced. See any opposition to that?

(2) The U.S. has to do away with patriotism and national pride. Besides anyone taking a knee on that one (football), doe we see it everywhere else?

(3) The guns will have to be taken away from law abiding citizens, so there's no resistance to a tyrannical government. Nah, our government would never do that!

I could get into the many reasons why they are encouraging mass illegal immigration and open borders, and it has little to do with jobs American workers won't do. But that's another topic too, and no ones read this far anyway. So I'll set back, twiddle my thumbs and read some more Worthy encouragement...

 

[Dennis1209]

On 12/25/2017 at 10:43 PM, brakelite said:

Hi. First, I agree with you re adultery. And so does my church. But I am not going to defend the sins and wrong attitudes of individuals within my church. That many individuals have mistaken views and practices within the church doesn't mean the church agrees with them. Nor do I. That so many tolerate and gloss over the sin is not right. That does not however provide me with an excuse or reason to leave. There are such sins in every denomination. Where would I go? And if I dug deep enough, likely a lot worse. But it isn't my work to dig into the private lives of individuals and use them as the basis for my decisions. It is what the church teaches as Bible truth. I have much I could and do protest against as far as behaviour and lifestyles among the people in my church. But it isn't my work to uproot tares. I will continue to uphold Bible truth...and if it offends those next to me then that is on them. Tolerating adultery among church members without counselling and clear instruction in what the scriptures teach is wrong...and wherever this is happening, even if the pastor himself is guilty, there needs to be open rebuke. God will have a holy church when He comes to take it home. 

I know what technology is aiming for. And I understand in a limited degree how it will be used to enforce compliance. Don't obey...we switch you off. Don't accept our religion...you don't buy or sell. And they have the means and capability to do it. Right now, Sunday observance is not the mark of the beast. It isn't as simple as that. E G White herself said there are many more genuine Christian believers in non adventist churches than there were in her own church. Being a Christian is about fully living up to the light one has received. Even in Catholicism there are people we will see in heaven, despite the teachings that they they currently believe in. This is because they are living according to what light they have received, and are constantly seeking new light. They are growing in their faith, as should everyone be. Not all of us are enlightened to every Bible truth. The reformation isn't over yet. So as far as Sunday is concerned, not everyone is fully cognisant of the ramifications of keeping that day. People on this forum are correct when they say every day should be a day of worship. What many do not understand is the true relation Christians have to the Sabbath. 

The time is coming, and I think you understand this friend, when all the world will be under the authority of a union of church and state. The state portion run by the UN, (believe it or not with impetus from the USA)the church portion by the Vatican. Incorporated within this union, will be apostate protestant churches, and non-Christian faiths such as Islam and Judaism and Buddhism etc. As well as all the Luciferian offshoots. The woman riding the beast in Revelation is church riding the state. The church holds the reins...the state gives its support through legislation and military power. Religious compliance...enforced worship according to the dictates of Rome. That is what we have to look forward to. It won't be a choice between receiving an RFID chip or not. It will be a choice between honouring the commandments of God as opposed to the commandments of men. Worshiping God according to the dictates of Babylon, or doing so according to the Bible. Revelation, in fact the entire Bible, is about worship...the battle between what Satan desires (worship of himself) and what God requires (worship of Him in Spirit and truth). The mark of the beast (the mark of Babylonian authority ...because the harlot is Babylonian in character and women in prophecy represent churches...and sun worship...the ancient mystery religion of Babylon) will be enforced. But it is not yet. Not all recognise the true import of these matters...but when the global union begins to be the dictatorial power that Revelation declares it will be and in fulfilment of prophecy establishes a world-wide apostate ecumenical religion that usurps every prerogative of Jesus, then the full power of Antichrist will be in effect. Again, the choice will be between Antichrist and the true Christ. The day of the Antichrist or the Lord's day, the Sabbath. 

My decision in the future will not be about me wanting to take a chip or not...use the latest technology or not. It will be about whether I am willing to suffer for Christ's sake. Am I willing to obey Christ when threatened with hunger and/or the accusations and belittling coming from family and friends. Am I willing to follow conscience when the official church teaches otherwise? I have no allusions as to the future. MY own church will I believe officially cave in. There will be no official churches in existence on the planet who do not or have not bowed to Baal. There will only be individuals who in various places and who formerly belonged to all manner of faith groups, who are "looking for and hasting unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" 2 Peter 3:12 and who "keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". Revelation 14:12.

Very, very well written there brakelite, and I totally agree! Not that my opinion means much! About the only thing I could possibly add is; the gentile world system and the age of the gentiles all started with Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon. The world has been under gentile control and that system for about 2,600 years now, and it's going to close in the foreseeable future.

[Dennis1209]

On 12/28/2017 at 8:36 AM, Justin Adams said:

I think part of the issue here is that the councils never really got Rome out of the church. The church 'moved on' carrying with it many vestiges of Rome. There is just way too much of Rome in the reformed doctrines that were never officially solved. Rome got its hooks well set over the centuries, and though they killed upwards of as many as 100 million believers, still the older doctrines are in effect today - in a church near you!

It is good to look at the doctrines of Rome and their past edicts that Luther railed against. But remember, he was quite easy on the sitting pope and many of the very obvious faults of that papacy. Luther valued his head on his shoulders and not on a stick. Even so, Rome burned quite a number of high officials in its ant-reformation purges.

From the first century onwards there has been a massive movement to discredit YaHuah and the scriptures. This is perhaps the largest conspiracy of our world. To pervert Yah's Salvation, Redemption and Propitiation.
Today it is hotting up as never before because believers really do not know what they believe - or even if it is true.
So, being a little lazy, the 'believers' follow the noisiest pastor or TV evangelist they can find in the hopes that numbers and noises will save them in the end.
They are very, very lost. And the ones that are finding their way are bombarded by this and that doctrine to a complete standstill.

Hence, "The Roman Catholic Church".

[Dennis1209]

9 hours ago, naominash said:

Whatever the Mark of the Beast is, I hope it's not something we can just accidentally accept. 

 

No one will be deceived into accidentally receiving it. Paying allegiance to and worshiping the Antichrist is part of "the mark of the Beast". 

[brakelite]

17 hours ago, naominash said:

Whatever the Mark of the Beast is, I hope it's not something we can just accidentally accept. 

 

The most dire and horrendous judgement and sentence will be pronounced upon those who accept the mark. .....

 If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:  Revel. 14:9,10....

Such a sentence upon these who will clearly choose the commandments of man above the commandments of God will not be pronounced upon any who have no clear, intelligent, and conscious knowledge concerning what they are doing. Everyone , without exception, will know what the mark is...what it means...and what the inevitable consequences are. When they finally choose it, they will deliberately do so because they desire it above the principles of scripture that contradict it.