Do born-again Christians get angry/hateful/bitter?

[MyLordsServant]

Why do they and why does the Spirit/God allow it?

Does the Spirit temporarily leave? The fruit of the Spirit doesn't include hate/anger/bitterness.

[lastofall]

"And they that are [belong to] Christ's have crucified [put to death] the flesh [corrupt nature] with the affections and lusts." (Galatians 5:24)

"Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour [protest], and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all [any form of] malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)

[Justin Adams]

7 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

Why do they and why does the Spirit/God allow it?

Does the Spirit temporarily leave? The fruit of the Spirit doesn't include hate/anger/bitterness.

Yahweh is patient with us kids. He winks at so much we are not even aware of.

Even on this site I have been insulted and had personal (not thematic) rebuttals. The mods overlook some people's out and out rudeness and behavior. Sad really, so the world out there - our playing field - sees us largely as overblown bigots that do not mind destroying our brothers and sisters in order to 'be correct'.

I see very little humor and gentleness in much of what is leveled at me, and know who to follow if I want to see a fight. Some appear to roam about just looking to nit-pick or disprove something for sport. They claim they are upright and correct and that we all need them to police our thoughts. 

What this boils down to is that there is so little discussion and exchange of ideas. It just ends up as the 'few' browbeating the rest to silence. This does not gain us anything at all, except pain.

[wingnut-]

8 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

Why do they and why does the Spirit/God allow it?

 

Romans 7: 14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. 15 For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.

 

8 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

Does the Spirit temporarily leave? The fruit of the Spirit doesn't include hate/anger/bitterness.

 

Romans 7:21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, 23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members.24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

[TheMatrixHasU71]

10 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

Why do they and why does the Spirit/God allow it?

Does the Spirit temporarily leave? The fruit of the Spirit doesn't include hate/anger/bitterness.

No the Spirit never leaves us. But that doesnt mean we are perfect and totally free from sin or the inclination to commit sin. Nowhere in the bible does it ever suggest that we dont ever sin at all or like you say, get angry or hateful or whatever. 

[TheMatrixHasU71]

2 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Yahweh is patient with us kids. He winks at so much we are not even aware of.

Even on this site I have been insulted and had personal (not thematic) rebuttals. The mods overlook some people's out and out rudeness and behavior. Sad really, so the world out there - our playing field - sees us largely as overblown bigots that do not mind destroying our brothers and sisters in order to 'be correct'.

I see very little humor and gentleness in much of what is leveled at me, and know who to follow if I want to see a fight. Some appear to roam about just looking to nit-pick or disprove something for sport. They claim they are upright and correct and that we all need them to police our thoughts. 

What this boils down to is that there is so little discussion and exchange of ideas. It just ends up as the 'few' browbeating the rest to silence. This does not gain us anything at all, except pain.

That is not answering his question. Dont make it about you.

[Justin Adams]

Just now, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

That is not answering his question. Dont make it about you.

I can only answer from personal experience.

So why do you get personal by saying my answer was not up to your standards?

Instead of suggestions, you dominate by statements that to you are fact, but to others may just be conjecture.

In fact, your nit-picking response adequately supports my original observations that all most people want to do is put down others and criticize.

[TheMatrixHasU71]

1 minute ago, Justin Adams said:

I can only answer from personal experience.

So why do you get personal by saying my answer was not up to your standards?

Instead of suggestions, you dominate by statements that to you are fact, but to others may just be conjecture.

In fact, your nit-picking response adequately supports my original observations that all most people want to do is put down others and criticize.

See you are doing it again. That wasnt answering MLS's question about Christians in general.

[Justin Adams]

I do see your point(s). I am a little ahead of what you expect here. How may I answer about Christians in general?

I am one person and to answer thus would have been in a vacuum. Or spitting into the wind.

So to demonstrate and elucidate at the same time requires interaction. Remember, this is a hypothetical experience we are engaged in.

I.e. we have the benchmarks of the Spiritual attributes. We then have a discussion and points put forward, either pleasantly, or not quite so kindly. Then the observers - the millions of people that are our witnesses plus the heavenly host - can observe if indeed the good spiritual attributes that are demonstrated. Love, Joy, Peace, Long-suffering etc.

[john1]

20 hours ago, MyLordsServant said:

Why do they and why does the Spirit/God allow it?

One person once told me, human first Christian second.

Proverbs chapter 10 verse 12

Love covers all wrongs.