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6 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Apparently you are not a pretribulation believer. You will not come find me during the tribulation because I will not be here.

You loved sister.   tell you what if you still alive when it kicks off,   I will, LORD WILLING , come find ya.    till then keep praising the Lord. 

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2 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

No one who is OF CHRIST will suffer the wrath of GOD.

but satan will bring great wrath of his own against the church .

many will die , but truly they will only live forever with the LORD .  For though man has power to kill the body, he cant harm the soul.

Whether we live or die we the Lords.    Having great wrath for satan knows his time is short , and he will go after those who love Christ .

The whole world is being made ready for the worship of the beast in the final hour .   We right at that hour .

No need to fear for any of us.    To know JESUS is all that matters now .    The world crucified him, It will us too.

betrayed from within HE was, so too will his church be,  a pretender as one who is of us, is speaking poision right now as are many who are not truly of us.

to bring the whole world to come against the few true lambs.     We closing in on that final hour.  You loved sister.    you are .    and we are not alone

even at our end , JESUS IS and will be with us .      SO LORD willing sis , I will come and try and find you and others so at least we can go out praising the LORD as one .

The problem is that those who think the Church will go through the tribulation think that the Christians will not be harmed and that is not the case. They would suffer just as much as anyone else. God is going to keep the born again Christian from that wrath and Judgement of the tribulation. That is why there will be a rapture. Revelation 3:10


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2 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

You loved sister.   tell you what if you still alive when it kicks off,   I will, LORD WILLING , come find ya.    till then keep praising the Lord. 

Time will tell.

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You might revisit the Exodus. There were plagues etc and yet the ones under the blood of the lamb were saved from them.

There are many passages that are perhaps prophetic accounts in the OT that seem to directly affect us today, or in recent history.

The Exodus may be one of them because it is eerily similar in scope and proportions to how we might expect the great tribulation to be.

Remember how the Lord caused the armies of the Egyptian's to be flooded, thus saving Israel?


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The convenience of the  tribulation hesitation gospel is so wholeheartedly  adapted to the ways of the world .

The Lord  providing  for spiritual slackers to pencil in their salvation dates  in accordance  with tribulation commencement day .

And even after tribulation commencement day , 7 whole years to play with & be saved .

Sweet !

With all of  our tomorrows  assured us , &   7 years  to play with before committing .

No wonder Jesus told us not to fear .

The power of hesitation and delay is awesomely alive !

                                                                   "    ..when I have a convenient season I will call for thee ."     ( Acts 24 : 25 )                                                                                                                                                                                                           


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2 hours ago, LightShinesInTheDarkness said:

Some prophetic scriptures (like the destruction of the Jewish temple and of Jerusalem which Jesus foretold) have a double fulfillment, some have one; some have already been fulfilled, some have been partially fulfilled, and some have yet to be fulfilled. Knowing which is which and what applies to whom requires God-given discernment.

The abomination of desolation is the worship of the antichrist taking place in God's temple---His Church: True Christians who fall away from Christ during the Tribulation and take the mark of the beast and worship his image, practically putting the antichrist in God's rightful place--the "holy place" where "he" (the antichrist) or "it" (his image) 'ought not to be', which is already full of other abominations. And those who do this will be left desolate for doing so, just as the temple of the Jews was left desolate for their rejection of Christ. The Holy Spirit will depart from them.

(Daniel 8:11-14; 9:26,27; 12:11. Revelation 14:9-12.)

The discernment that you speak of would include Christ and the cross as the apex - not the foreshadowing of something more. What men do not easily discern, is that all things point to Christ, both from of old and of these times since He came into the world, meaning, there is both a foreshadowing, and also a post-shadowing. This is the spirit of prophesy, but also that delusion sent to those who do not love the truth, who now go so far as to say, to their own demise, "It is not finished."


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Leaving out all the many supporting scriptures of the pre-tribulation Rapture.

The entire New Testament is packed with references of the Church and body of Christ. All the way until Revelation 4:1, then no mentions are made of the Church or body of Christ, until the very end of Revelation. Just that alone is very telling. 

I'm personally wondering which side of the official mark of the tribulation the destruction of Damascus, destruction of Elam and the Ezekiel 38: - 39: invasion will occur? And if we Christians will be around to witness one or more of these events? 

We can sure see the players, motivation and the jockeying taking place right before our eyes. Now that we are witnessing it first hand, and the generation that is alive when Israel once again became a nation. We're the terminal generation, and think of how close the coming of the Lord for his Bride must be? 

We don't know the day nor the hour, but the season is unmistakable. I have a gut feeling our wait is not going to be years, but months possibly. 


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10 minutes ago, ScottA said:

The discernment that you speak of would include Christ and the cross as the apex - not the foreshadowing of something more. What men do not easily discern, is that all things point to Christ, both from of old and of these times since He came into the world, meaning, there is both a foreshadowing, and also a post-shadowing. This is the spirit of prophesy, but also that delusion sent to those who do not love the truth, who now go so far as to say, to their own demise, "It is not finished."

A good example of a foreshadowing of Christ is Numbers 21: 8-9, and 2 Kings 18:4. It's not explained anywhere in the Old Testament. It's not explained until John 3:14, leading up to the most famous verse in the Bible. I thought that was so amazing!

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9 hours ago, ScottA said:

The discernment that you speak of would include Christ and the cross as the apex - not the foreshadowing of something more. What men do not easily discern, is that all things point to Christ, both from of old and of these times since He came into the world, meaning, there is both a foreshadowing, and also a post-shadowing. This is the spirit of prophesy, but also that delusion sent to those who do not love the truth, who now go so far as to say, to their own demise, "It is not finished."

What does Christ's fulfillment of the Messianic prophecies have to do with this subject? Jesus fulfilled everything that pertained to the Messiah. All scriptural prophecy is not Messianic, and all scriptural prophecy has not yet been fulfilled.

And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, Who created heaven and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, that there would be no more delay, but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as He announced to His servants the prophets. (Revelation 10:5-7 ESV)

The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, "It is done!" (Revelation 16:17 ESV)

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6 minutes ago, LightShinesInTheDarkness said:

What does Christ's fulfillment of the Messianic prophecies have to do with this subject? Jesus fulfilled everything that pertained to the Messiah. All scriptural prophecy is not Messianic, and all scriptural prophecy has not been fulfilled.

The greatest tribulation is all the sins of the world, past, present, and future, being placed upon Christ. The point is, you and the greater church complex have the timing of the most important part of understanding the end times...wrong.

If you properly attribute the time of great tribulation to the time of Christ...it all comes out differently (correctly). Things that you have pushed off as not possibly being fulfilled yet, have indeed been fulfilled. Adjust the timing of the main event...and have another look.

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