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On 1/25/2018 at 1:02 PM, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said:

The problem is that people worry so much about it ("pre-trib" or "post-trib") as if real Christians would simply forget Christ and deny Him to save their lives during a tribulation.

Real Christians would never do that... No matter in what kind of tribulation they are in.

 

Then what I do is just warn, and warn to obey the Gospel: Surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ before it is too late.

"For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it." - Matthew 16:25

 

Do not be deceived, the Lord knows who are His. The Lord knows if you are going to endure any tribulation even before it starts.

 

Glory to God!

"Real Christians would never do that... No matter in what kind of tribulation they are in."

Gee I find myself in disagreement with that  one. 

"Jesus Foretells Peter's Denial

 “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat,  but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.”  Peter said to him, “Lord, I am ready to go with you both to prison and to death.”  Jesus said, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster will not crow this day, until you deny three times that you know me.”

Scripture Must Be Fulfilled in Jesus

 And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.  For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.”  And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”

Jesus Prays on the Mount of Olives

 And he came out and went, as was his custom, to the Mount of Olives, and the disciples followed him.  And when he came to the place, he said to them, “Pray that you may not enter into temptation.”  And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”  And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him.  And being in agony he prayed more earnestly; and his sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground. And when he rose from prayer, he came to the disciples and found them sleeping for sorrow,  and he said to them, “Why are you sleeping? Rise and pray that you may not enter into temptation.”

Betrayal and Arrest of Jesus

 While he was still speaking, there came a crowd, and the man called Judas, one of the twelve, was leading them. He drew near to Jesus to kiss him,  but Jesus said to him, “Judas, would you betray the Son of Man with a kiss?” And when those who were around him saw what would follow, they said, “Lord, shall we strike with the sword?”  And one of them struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his right ear.  But Jesus said, “No more of this!” And he touched his ear and healed him.  Then Jesus said to the chief priests and officers of the temple and elders, who had come out against him, “Have you come out as against a robber, with swords and clubs?  When I was with you day after day in the temple, you did not lay hands on me. But this is your hour, and the power of darkness.”

Peter Denies Jesus

 Then they seized him and led him away, bringing him into the high priest's house, and Peter was following at a distance.  And when they had kindled a fire in the middle of the courtyard and sat down together, Peter sat down among them. Then a servant girl, seeing him as he sat in the light and looking closely at him, said, “This man also was with him.” But he denied it, saying, “Woman, I do not know him.”  And a little later someone else saw him and said, “You also are one of them.” But Peter said, “Man, I am not.” And after an interval of about an hour still another insisted, saying, “Certainly this man also was with him, for he too is a Galilean.”  But Peter said, “Man, I do not know what you are talking about.” And immediately, while he was still speaking, the rooster crowed. And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the saying of the Lord, how he had said to him, “Before the rooster crows today, you will deny me three times.” And he went out and wept bitterly."

 

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12 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Gee I find myself in disagreement with that  one. 

Sorry, Neighbor.

But when Peter denied Jesus he was still in the flesh, he did not receive the Holy Spirit. Then Jesus knew he was going to deny Him.

 

And this is so true, that after Peter and the apostles received the Holy Spirit they endured all that happened to them.

And Peter, who faced a horrible death for the glory of God later in his life.

"Most assuredly, I say to you, when you were younger, you girded yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old,
you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish.”
This He spoke, signifying by what death he would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, “Follow Me.”" - John 21:18-19

 

The truth is, the Holy Spirit in us makes us overcome all things. And for His glory.

"For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen." - Romans 11:36

 

Glory to God!

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2 minutes ago, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said:

Sorry, Neighbor.

But when Peter denied Jesus he was still in the flesh, he did not receive the Holy Spirit. Then Jesus knew he was going to deny Him.

 

And this is so true, that after Peter and the apostles received the Holy Spirit they endured all that happened to them.

And Peter, who faced a horrible death for the glory of God later in his life.

"Most assuredly, I say to you, when you were younger, you girded yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old,
you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish.”
This He spoke, signifying by what death he would glorify God. And when He had spoken this, He said to him, “Follow Me.”" - John 21:18-19

 

The truth is, the Holy Spirit in us makes us overcome all things. And for His glory.

"For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen." - Romans 11:36

 

Glory to God!

YES , stand for the truth my friend of many letters, stand and if it costs men to hate us ,  just rejoice n JESUS

and if it costs us our life ,  REJOICE in JESUS.   stand firm against the tide of the all inclusive flood that is rushing into the minds of men gone wrong .

Stand against the tides of lies of things like hey lets put down doctrines and focus on unity .   they lies , its a sham . 

Stand firm in the LORD and let us who love the LORD count the whole cost and if it costs us our life , THEN SO BE IT .  HE GAVE US LIFE , unto HE ALONE is our loyalty . 

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Peter was always in the flesh til his death. He had Christ Jesus while in the flesh too, but he denied Him. Having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is no cureall for error, failings, nor making decisions for self preservation of the flesh. The old man  is always trying to come forth, sometimes it does with domination, but that failure does not mean a person is not Christian. If it were so then we would be either perfect in the flesh or condemned in it. The saints are neither perfect, nor condemned. Each are saved by God alone.


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5 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Peter was always in the flesh til his death. He had Christ Jesus while in the flesh too, but he denied Him. Having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is no cureall for error, failings, nor making decisions for self preservation of the flesh. The old man  is always trying to come forth, sometimes it does with domination, but that failure does not mean a person is not Christian. If it were so then we would be either perfect in the flesh or condemned in it. The saints are neither perfect, nor condemned. Each are saved by God alone.

 

Luke 12:8 “And I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man also will acknowledge before the angels of God, 9 but the one who denies me before men will be denied before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.11 And when they bring you before the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, do not be anxious about how you should defend yourself or what you should say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.”

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3 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Peter was always in the flesh til his death. He had Christ Jesus while in the flesh too, but he denied Him. Having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is no cureall for error, failings, nor making decisions for self preservation of the flesh. The old man  is always trying to come forth, sometimes it does with domination, but that failure does not mean a person is not Christian. If it were so then we would be either perfect in the flesh or condemned in it. The saints are neither perfect, nor condemned. Each are saved by God alone.

IF one errs and repents of course they are not condemened.    Its when they justify the sin they condemned.    

a heart that does that , KNOWS NOT GOD .    even david repented, even job,  even peter.  

So on that note you are one hundred percent right.  BUT LETS NOT LIMIT the POWER O GOD.    For if we follow the SPIRIT we would NOT fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

How bout when it comes to error we teach like JESUS DID , who said GO and sin no more lest an even worse thing come upon you.

And paul who said let all who name the name of Christ depart from inquity,  boy that sure sounds like go and sin no more .

or how bout let not even these things be named ONCE , not even ONCE among you as becomes saints.

ENOUGH with the non serious , non grave approach that men of beilial have taught so many today. 

I seen one requirement the same with leaders as with wives as with young men and old .   BE GRAVE.    HEYA neighbor , where has that attitude went today.

Start over fast neighbor , DO IT ,  I love you , but you are on a dangerous slope right now .  


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15 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

ENOUGH with the non serious , non grave approach that men of beilial have taught so many today.

Yes, I believe we all have to be serious about it and seek repentance daily of our sins... When we fail, we should seek not to fail again, to humble ourselves before God and cry: "Please, help me overcome this! Help me become a better person".

 

The proud approach of: "Everyone is a sinner, then I'm proud slave of it anyway". It is not good at all.

"But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’
For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”" - Matthew 9:13

 

God bless you!

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Just now, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said:

Yes, I believe we all have to be serious about it and seek repentance daily of our sins... When we fail, we should seek not to fail again, to humble ourselves before God and cry: "Please, help me overcome this! Help me become a better person".

 

The proud approach of: "Everyone is a sinner, then I'm proud slave of it anyway". It is not good at all.

"But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’
For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”" - Matthew 9:13

 

God bless you!

Well now how true is that .  very true.   

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