AMERICA: NEW ROME & BABYLON THE GREAT ("Come out of her, My people...")

[n2thelight]

37 minutes ago, Cletus said:

whats your take on this:

Jer 1:4  Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Jer 1:5  Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

 

What I've been saying for a minute now

We were in Heaven before being born of woman

[Guest shiloh357]

4 hours ago, n2thelight said:

My view is I don't think God know.s who will come to Him

 

But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
(Joh 6:64)

How could Jesus know any of that if He doesn't know who will come to him?

 

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If He did,what's the purpose?

What do you mean?   

[n2thelight]

9 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said:

It's not a question of purpose, but of nature: if God is greater than everything, than He is greater than space and time. If that is the case, how could He not know? Why would those who would come to Him be a mystery to the One whom created time and space itself?

When we start limiting God in order to fit the theories and "theology" we have, then it is no longer the God of the Bible we are seeking to define(!), but a "god" of our own creation. And it has to be one of our making, because the Creator of man and our universe cannot be defined by us mere mortals; we instead have to go by the revelation of Himself that He sees fit to give us. And that revelation tells us that God can see in darkness as if it were light:

satan is the only person by name that has been already judged and sentenced to death,his angels are as well,just not named,they are the 7000 that die instantly at the return of Christ

 

So my point is,why didn't He(God)destroy them when satan sinned and they followed him?

What's the purpose for a life of suffering,if He already knows who will come,I would call that a cruel god,and my God isn't cruel

 

My opinion...

Edited May 30, 2018 by n2thelight

[n2thelight]

15 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Then you do not believe that God is omniscient.  God is either all-knowing or He is not.  In the above statement you demonstrate that you do not believe God is all-knowing.  So you take one of the immutable qualities of God and pitch it out the window.  Convenient because that makes it a good deal easier to accept a Me-centered doctrine like Calvinism.

"I'm sure glad I'm one of the predestined ones.  Sorry about the rest of you."

That is Calvinism in a nutshell.

I'm glad God gave every human being who came in the past, is here now, or will be born in the future a level playing field when it comes to salvation instead of the warped, self-centered Calvinist doctrine where life is either a sure thing, or on the flip side, your doomed from the first breath you take, because either way, no one has a choice.  The entire thrust of the Gospel is that the choice is up to us.  Free will exists even though you refuse to accept it.

I've never studied Calvin,so I don't even know what the heck he taught....

You glad you predestined,what about the ones who are not?

I'm not understanding what you saying

Why would God create someone that He knows is going to hell?

Nobody is doomed,only 2 choices God or satan and if God already knows your choice,you don't have one

Would rather not had been born at all

[n2thelight]

15 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Then you do not believe that God is omniscient.  God is either all-knowing or He is not.  In the above statement you demonstrate that you do not believe God is all-knowing.  So you take one of the immutable qualities of God and pitch it out the window.  Convenient because that makes it a good deal easier to accept a Me-centered doctrine like Calvinism.

Didn't say that ,so please don't put words in my mouth

[n2thelight]

15 hours ago, Cobalt1959 said:

You need to figure out what you actually believe, because you are a Hot Mess when it comes to salvation.

I know perfectly well what I believe,and I alone will stand before God

 

What you all are saying is Im doomed because God knows ,so if that's the case,then why in the heck did He create me in the first place

Example,I don't believe in eternal torture in hell,yet you say God created people just for that,are you serious

[George]

I removed some of the posts in this thread -- PLEASE NO JUDGING of someone's salvation.  If you believe someone is in error -- then called out the error and why it's in error.   When it gets personal -- it's going to be removed ASAR -- (As Soon As Reported!).

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, George said:

I removed some of the posts in this thread -- PLEASE NO JUDGING of someone's salvation.  If you believe someone is in error -- then called out the error and why it's in error.   When it gets personal -- it's going to be removed ASAR -- (As Soon As Reported!).

Can I take this personally  

[enoob57]

On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 7:33 AM, other one said:

if we are supposed to come out of her, pray tell where are we supposed to go?

 

California is the place we oughta be so they loaded up their truck and moved 

[other one]

52 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

California is the place we oughta be so they loaded up their truck and moved 

well I guess we could....   but since we didn't strike oil we'd have to be street people LoL