Emergency help and drug addiction

[Gideon]

On 4/23/2018 at 11:03 PM, Yowm said:

IMHO, Today de-value the life of the drug dealer, tomorrow the poor and on the following day, those bothersome Christians.

Maybe more money should go to essential services rather than something like a multi-cultural parade or other such nonsense.

A drug addict will never be responsible for his/her actions (hence the addiction), they're slaves to it and need freedom through Jesus...as we all needed Him.

Excellent post, Yowm. I agree wholeheartedly. 

Blessings,

Gideon

[Dan_79]

On 24/04/2018 at 4:03 AM, Yowm said:

IMHO, Today de-value the life of the drug dealer, tomorrow the poor and on the following day, those bothersome Christians.

Maybe more money should go to essential services rather than something like a multi-cultural parade or other such nonsense.

A drug addict will never be responsible for his/her actions (hence the addiction), they're slaves to it and need freedom through Jesus...as we all needed Him.

"...as we all needed Him."

Amen to that brother Yowm.

The system has let them down. They have made bad choices (which mortal man or woman hasn't??)

They need help in their time of need. It is a difficult one, I have worked with some who went on to die and it is very rare to see someone come back from such a devastating addiction be it heroin or worse, they all needed Jesus.

[john1]

On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 9:48 PM, angels4u said:

I was in a disagreement with people about this topic,and I would love to hear more opinions,what would be a biblical view for this?

My Republican brother in law thinks their should be a limit, but I'm a democrat and believe needle exchange where they teach drug addicts how not to over dose is better.

I would vote Republican if they took care of their soldiers but even the democrat's don't do that.

[Neighbor]

Opiod addiction is not an accident. It is a tactic in a strategy to weaken and defeat the USA. That same tactic was used by Britain against China. ( The The Tulip war, and also see the crushing of China by the Brits that started around 1835 and eventually set up conditions  for the Japanese invasion of Chinia, and  the war in the Pacific ( WWII ).

Today's opiod epidemic at the USA started  with cocaine around 1928 in the jazz arena. It has grown and mutated into the opiod epidemic of today  by plan not by mere folly.  Without rapid and decisive action  the USA will soon be in such sorry shape it will have to retreat from  it's position of strength in the world to a mere shadow of a place with vast areas of it run by feudal lords. 

There has been  but one person speaking out , sounding the alarm, and trying to take real decisive action that I know of, and that is President Donald Trump.  Seems he absolutely hates drug use, doesn't even consume any alcohol himself. His father  was an abuser of alcohol. His brother has been troubled by addiction to alcohol and drug abuse as well. That has left a strong awareness in this President. He boldly stands against this abuse. He knows what is happening. He alone was sounding the alarm before a few senators and now a few State governors have caught on. There was just a hugely successful series of raids against these traffickers in opiods. Hopefully there will be many more.

Please pray for the many good people that risk their life and their family's lives beating back this attack on the USA.

From my perspective, every user abuser is an enabler that prospers drug cartel gangs, and is therefore involved in this awful plot against the country.

 

Praise God and pray for  this land's peoples on these many kinds of drugs, for the country is in trouble; even as it fluorishes for the moment. Support law enforcement. 

[Dan_79]

Prevention is the best cure.

Society allows this to flourish because these people get slowly sucked in probably from an early age that manifests into young adulthood, which by then it is either to late (by their reasoning) or understood how far along that path they are, with no help, no hope and looked down upon by the rest of society.

I have been homelessl, taken all sorts of drugs and had a very turbulent past, the drugs and homelessness did not go hand in hand in my case. Proof to myself that people can and do recover to a point where they can say..phew...glad that is over I have witnessed. Once my mind had been burnt out by drugs and my reasoning was clouded and I looked and smelled like I should be avoided by family, loyal friends etc (my stubborness defeated their limitations on help), it was down to my spirit to keep up the good fight, as soon as others saw I was trying to help myself I had all the help I wanted and certainly needed.

Governments these days are not anti drugs, doctors are by definition state drug dealers, don't be decieved by all the anti drug schemes and rehabilitation in the media.... it became clear to me afterwards they have a dog to be backed in the fight over who produces and who runs the rackets.... Drugs are big business along with arms and people traffiking.

The history of the Opium wars to the Mexican cartels via the Afghan poppy fields all hide a glaring truth that man is stubborn to learn, society rewards different people in different ways but they would rather ignore the victims of their own policies even when they are seen on home soil and how they explain them away is appauling.

You would be suprised how many of these addicts are ex servcicemen whose missions include wiping out entire villages for land to be used to grow drug crops and secure narural gas and oil etc.

I was horrified to learn the outcomes of many "grunts" military "pawns" and "goons" of foreign policy who get brainwashed into commiting legal murder, kidnap and worse.

Spiritually repenting so harshly that sleeping under a bridge with nothing but a blanket and some herion running through their veins to numb the cold, was all they wanted to do or could offer back to the state that took so much from them and rewarded them so little after a few completed missions. 

The ones I worked with gave so much to their country but learned afterwards the truth of their missions. That being the catalyst to an unbearable realisation that comes after a hastey de-commision.

 

They were still people and it was their stories that helped me learn about what you are not taught or that which is to be kept secret from the hum drum public emersed in their own material trance like state. By the time the pride and adrenalin wore off and the truth they sought came to set them free from continuing it left them also aware of their actions. Many take their own lives or "crack" during the impossible task of re entering society and raise the prison statistics, those with the addiction still have their spirit and are not a lost cause.

Sorry to go off a little from the topic, AE and 911 I guess you should treat each case as genuine until you know otherwise. You risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater otherwise.

 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2018 by Dan_79

[Dan_79]

13 hours ago, Yowm said:

Heck, there are some addicted to calling 911. I've heard of repeated cases of "Help, my puddy cat is stuck in our tree!". Now those are the ones that need to be passed over.

Yes. I agree.

If the call centre 911 exchange has limited staff if can and I guess does hinder genuine 911 calls for help.

I have my doubts regarding how far governments can grow in these areas and wonder if they set the price on life by advising us to rely on them to do this kind of societal task in its entirety. Its all being seen to be doing something using words like "care" etc but its largely determined by social and financial status after the initial call is collected and value for money is then a cause of greater concern than saving a life. I will not go down the route of another issue, namely the sale of organs whose demands from differing ends of the societal spectrum creates a supply and demand chain. It too hard hitting for most people I speak to.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Dan_79

[Neighbor]

2 hours ago, Dan_79 said:

Prevention is the best cure.

Society allows this to flourish because these people get slowly sucked in probably from an early age that manifests into young adulthood, which by then it is either to late (by their reasoning) or understood how far along that path they are, with no help, no hope and looked down upon by the rest of society.

I have been homeless a few times, taken all sorts of drugs and had a very turbulent past, Proof to myself that people can and do recover to a point where they can say..phew...glad that is over. Once my mind had been burnt out and my reasoning was clouded and I looked and smelled like I should be avoided by family, loyal friends etc my stubborness defeated their limitations on help, it was down to my spirit to keep up the good fight, as soon as others saw I was trying to help myself I had all the help I wanted and certainly needed.

Governments these days are not anti drugs, don't be decieved by all the anti drug schemes and rehabilitation in the media.... it became clear to me afterwards they have a dog to be backed in the fight over who produces and who runs the rackets.... Drugs are big business along with arms and people traffiking.

The history of the Opium wars to the Mexican cartels via the Afghan poppy fields all hide a glaring truth that man is stubborn to learn, society rewards different people in different ways but they would rather ignore the victims of their own policies even when they are seen on home soil and how they explain them away is appauling.

You would be suprised how many of these addicts are ex servcicemen whose missions include wiping out entire villages for land to be used to grow drug crops and secure narural gas and oil etc.

I was horrified to learn the outcomes of many "grunts" military "pawns" and "goons" of foreign policy who get brainwashed into commiting legal murder, kidnap and worse.

Spiritually repenting so harshly that sleeping under a bridge with nothing but a blanket and some herion running through their veins to numb the cold, was all they wanted to do or could offer back to the state that took so much from them and rewarded them so little after a few completed missions. 

The ones I worked with gave so much to their country but learned afterwards the truth of their missions. That being the catalyst to an unbearable realisation that comes after a hastey de-commision.

 

They were still people and it was their stories that helped me learn about what you are not taught or that which is to be kept secret from the hum drum public emersed in their own material trance like state. By the time the pride and adrenalin wore off and the truth they sought came to set them free from continuing it left them also aware of their actions. Many take their own lives or "crack" during the impossible task of re entering society and raise the prison statistics, those with the addiction still have their spirit and are not a lost cause.

 

 

 

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP71T00730R000400330007-6.pdf

This one ( the link above) may be real  or a fraud, but I know the subject is correct. Control of latex needed for rubber, mostly for tires for military vehicles. Synthetics could not generate the needed wear nor volume.

 

There is a little historic site  at Ft. Myers Fl.  called the Winter Estates of Edison and Ford that gives strong testimony to the basis of this report. I also was told personally back in about 1965 of the need to protect the plantations being why the call up, why the draft. It had nothing to do with communism, but everything to do with control of all the rubber plantations. That was the real domino effect that was feared. One of the jobs of my youth included physically counting the 200 lb pads of natural raw rubber that would be at the factory. Skids upon skids stacked up. I used to have to climb those smelly piles. Others had to drop them in totwo story tall bambries mixing them with synthetic components to made foot wear. Other places  used them to make tires.

Tires were the key to commerce and to military movement; still is. The worst part of my job was to mix small batches of latex with other components in an old ringer washing machine to make glue for the white  rubber banding around tennis shoes that held the tops, fabric, to the rubber bottoms. The whole factory needed my little gloops of glue. I used to have to reach in, my arms would be coated each day and I would have to peel it all off me each day. Hated it! I was hairless and raw half the time from my peeling that stuff off me. Hey much the same today, hairless anyway.

Anyway back to 911 call service and today's need for handling opiod overdose issues. Seems the war is here, doesn't it?

[Dan_79]

1 hour ago, Neighbor said:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP71T00730R000400330007-6.pdf

This one ( the link above) may be real  or a fraud, but I know the subject is correct. Control of latex needed for rubber, mostly for tires for military vehicles. Synthetics could not generate the needed wear nor volume.

 

There is a little historic site  at Ft. Myers Fl.  called the Winter Estates of Edison and Ford that gives strong testimony to the basis of this report. I also was told personally back in about 1965 of the need to protect the plantations being why the call up, why the draft. It had nothing to do with communism, but everything to do with control of all the rubber plantations. That was the real domino effect that was feared. One of the jobs of my youth included physically counting the 200 lb pads of natural raw rubber that would be at the factory. Skids upon skids stacked up. I used to have to climb those smelly piles. Others had to drop them in totwo story tall bambries mixing them with synthetic components to made foot wear. Other places  used them to make tires.

Tires were the key to commerce and to military movement; still is. The worst part of my job was to mix small batches of latex with other components in an old ringer washing machine to make glue for the white  rubber banding around tennis shoes that held the tops, fabric, to the rubber bottoms. The whole factory needed my little gloops of glue. I used to have to reach in, my arms would be coated each day and I would have to peel it all off me each day. Hated it! I was hairless and raw half the time from my peeling that stuff off me. Hey much the same today, hairless anyway.

Anyway back to 911 call service and today's need for handling opiod overdose issues. Seems the war is here, doesn't it?

Not sure I can trust the public CIA information and their coverted deep state ideology but yes you are correct...I know people that used to work at the michelin tyre company in the midlands UK and said the same thing.

All I am saying is the media, the military and the CIA are not affiliated to Christianity. Christians die or are used but its not the goal of the Christian.

It is all linked and still of importance as it shows organized supply chains and disribution networks....even though we are told this is a major route for heroin....the idea of a donkey carrying heroin out of asia goes to no lengths in explaining how it makes its over a vast ocean and perfectly ditributed close to its intended user, the only coverted way in which it could come from is by air and sea...commercial we are told but what about the military?

Heroin has come along way to reach the end user and we are told of and know of how tight the controls are for travelling past boarder controls.

The media throws a few anecdotal stories about smugglers getting caught with a few pills and bit of sniff and it makes the headlines.

Its alot like asking how rebel forces in Syria came into using the same weapons used and distibuted by the western allied forces (izzy and uncle sam) isnt it?

Coca I dont know if it still is but was used to flavour coca cola. When the tons of coca leaves are stripped of the active ingredients where do you think it ends up? Dentists only?

911 calls gives us a massive clue to what is happening on the battle front of this war.

Its all easy to piece together once you learn the whole of it is run by a certain demograph, the education, the media, the military....and their desired goals.

The bible explains it best and is more up to date than tomorrows newspapers.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Dan_79

[Neighbor]

"The bible explains it best and is more up to date than tomorrows newspapers."

And therein is our hope that is certain. The true 911 that counts, for all eternity forward. Or as Buzz Lightyear says, " To infinity and beyond!"

Our hope is in the name of the Lord.

[Sower]

On 4/23/2018 at 10:03 PM, Yowm said:

IMHO, Today de-value the life of the drug dealer, tomorrow the poor and on the following day, those bothersome Christians.

Maybe more money should go to essential services rather than something like a multi-cultural parade or other such nonsense.

A drug addict will never be responsible for his/her actions (hence the addiction), they're slaves to it and need freedom through Jesus...as we all needed Him.

Agreed.    I had a dysfunctional childhood into young adulthood living with my alcoholic dad, and  heroin addicted brother . The lesson I learned is, until the drug addict has all the enablers removed, family, friends, meth treatment etc, that have been pulling them out of the ditch, they will continue their lifestyle. When they discover they have nobody to pull them out anymore, the realize, laying in the ditch, it's up to themselves to change.

Concerning devaluing human life, my wife and I discovered by chance what was going on in the government run schools in the early eighties. They issued new  government mandate to all schools introducing situational ethics, known as Values Clarification, earlier back in the seventies. We discovered this when our third grade daughter told us that when  in her class, everybody sitting in a circle, the teacher ask this question; You were on a ship that had sunk, now in a lifeboat with twelve others, you are in charge. In the raft is a pregnant woman, a young  girl, a very old gentleman, a disabled man, a doctor, two children, etc, etc. Then you are told you are in charge of the raft, which only holds six people. 'No' the teacher says, you can't have six swimming holding on, and then change when tired. You must decide who stays, and who does not. Third graders. Up until that time, my daughter valued all life the same, but now she had to "clarify", which life has more value. Guess the old man has already had a life, and maybe the disabled man cannot work , so they have less value. But the pregnant woman is like two so she can stay, and the two children, etc,etc. The "lessons" change morals and values in the young mind, in the privacy of the classroom, and this is unknown to the parents. This has happened, and is happening. Another case of our enlightened elite NEA/gov  using our kids as guinea pigs, and other sinister motives. Immediately took our kids out from their influence and taught them at home.  One of our best family decision. Anyone can verify at links below.

 

https://www.gospelway.com/topics/family/values_clarification.php Values Clarification, Humanism, Morals Education in Public Schools

Child Abuse in the Classroom, edited by Phyllis Schlafly            Great Christian woman.