President Trump

[ayin jade]

2 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

No we don't blame trump  .    We should pray for trump .   Trump is not at fault one ounce for christains calling him christain .  THOSE calling him one Are at fault with poor discernment .

 

 

You really should not be going on about poor discernment. I have at least twice seen you on these forums accusing someone of being a troll or not being saved or having a secret agenda, and it turned out that you were wrong. Yet you claimed that you knew this because of discernment.

After seeing you quickly proclaim intentions of other folks WITHOUT any proof, based on your feelings, your "discernment", I have learned to take what you say with a grain of salt. Just like the bible tells us to.

[ayin jade]

5 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Do you believe in true spiritual discernment .      I get the absolute worst feeling about that man . 

I truly perceive he is all about this inclusvism movement .  THOUGH I cant prove it at all.     But just wait .    IT will surface .

Give it time ,  IT WILL surface .   Last I heard he had said he was atheist , but then sorta changed his mind on that .   Mark my words ,  HE WILL be all about an all inclusive mindset .

Just wait ITS IN HIM .   I know ,  since I got no proof all I can say is watch out for that one . 

I dont think your discernment is all that accurate. I have seen you make false accusations on this forum.

[Blue1Sapphire]

8 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

He is not president of the world. He is president of the us. I dont care what the world thinks about trump. I care about what the president is doing for the us.

I wanted to give you a like.....but the board refuses to let me. So I snuck one past them.

[Guest shiloh357]

2 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Why do Trump people always bring up Obama?

To demonstrate the hypocrisy of Trump's critics who were mostly silent about Obama's missteps when he was president.

2 hours ago, n2thelight said:

He's the worst President we've had in the history of the U.S.,But you all will just defend him no matter what he does.

It's amazing to me

Why?

He has done more good for this country than any other president in recent memory.  We are stronger, safer, wealthier and more respected.  Trump has set records in lowing unemployment, tax cuts and is planning another round of tax cuts.  He has made it easier for people to start new businesses and he protects religious freedom.  

[Guest shiloh357]

16 hours ago, one.opinion said:

I very strongly question his authentic Christianity, but he isn't the topic of the OP.

But generally speaking, what I said is true.   No one, who is so concerned about Trump's salvation really cared about Obama's profession of Christianity despite the glaring contradictions.

If Trump were putting the US economy in a death spiral, if he was enacting destructive socio-economic policies, we would not be talking about whether or not he is a Christian.

This pre-occupation with smearing him (under the assumption he is a Christian)  is what people HAVE to resort to, because they lose the debate on policy issues.   They have to find other things to smear him about because the economy is booming and taxes are lower and he is governing like a conservative for the most part.  

And so they turn to "character."  The fact that most of those who smear the president on "character"  fail to recognize that IF his character were as bad as they crow about, it would show up in how he governs.   If he were the monster that his critics want to make him out to be, we would not have a president that keeps his promises.   You know, keeping your promises is part of character, too. 

Look at how his kids turned out.  They are not  like the children of other wealthy people who are on drugs or in and out of prison and other scandalous things.    His kids turned out to be decent, upstanding people who have prospered in their own rights, have great work ethic, and would make any parent proud given their accomplishments.   Raising kids that turn out like his kids have turned out, speaks to character too.

The political establishment hates him because Trump can't be bought, can't be bribed or paid off.    He is not part of the political fiefdom of Washington DC.    He likes spending time around average Americans, which the elite in Washington, despise.   No other president or elected official goes on "thank you" tours after they elected.  That is part of character,  too. 

The media hates him because he goes straight to the people which means they cannot control what people know and hear from the president.   He cannot be controlled by and is not beholden to the media and shows no reverence for the media. They cannot frame the presidency the way they want because Trump by-passes the media.  They cannot shape public opinion and control the narrative that people hear.  Trump is inarticulate, but he is real as it gets and people like that about him. 

[Blue1Sapphire]

25 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

But generally speaking, what I said is true.   No one, who is so concerned about Trump's salvation really cared about Obama's profession of Christianity despite the glaring contradictions.

If Trump were putting the US economy in a death spiral, if he was enacting destructive socio-economic policies, we would not be talking about whether or not he is a Christian.

This pre-occupation with smearing him (under the assumption he is a Christian)  is what people HAVE to resort to, because they lose the debate on policy issues.   They have to find other things to smear him about because the economy is booming and taxes are lower and he is governing like a conservative for the most part.  

And so they turn to "character."  The fact that most of those who smear the president on "character"  fail to recognize that IF his character were as bad as they crow about, it would show up in how he governs.   If he were the monster that his critics want to make him out to be, we would not have a president that keeps his promises.   You know, keeping your promises is part of character, too. 

Look at how his kids turned out.  They are not  like the children of other wealthy people who are on drugs or in and out of prison and other scandalous things.    His kids turned out to be decent, upstanding people who have prospered in their own rights, have great work ethic, and would make any parent proud given their accomplishments.   Raising kids that turn out like his kids have turned out, speaks to character too.

The political establishment him because Trump can't be bought, can't be bribed or paid off.  He cannot be controlled by and is not beholden to the media shows no reverence to the media.   He is not part of the political fiefdom of Washington DC.    He likes spending time around average Americans, which the elite in Washington, despise.   No other president or elected official goes on "thank you" tours after they elected.  That is part of character,  too. 

The media hates him because he goes straight to the people which means they cannot control what people know and hear from the president.   They cannot frame the presidency the way they want because Trump by-passes the media.  They cannot shape public opinion and control the narrative that people hear.  Trump is inarticulate, but he is real as it gets and people like that about him. 

Well said Shiloh.

[Drew54]

5 hours ago, n2thelight said:

And he won't release his tax returns,why?Grow up,please,if you were grown you would see that he's a child trying to do a grown persons job!!!!!!

He has been audited by the IRS for the last several years by the Obama administration, so they know he is legitimate.  Now on the other hand you had Obama that had his school and medical information sealed as he had so much to hide, but did you decry that when it came out?? Probably not because the leftist media fawned over him and Obama could do not wrong.  You really need to think for yourself instead of taking everything the liberal media says as gospel truth.

[Drew54]

7 hours ago, n2thelight said:

He's not a president,wouldn't care if he was independent.

What did he get done as a business man?

From wikipedia which anyone can read, "

Donald Trump is an American businessman, former television personality, and the 45th President of the United States. He began his real estate career at his father's company, Elizabeth Trump and Son, which he later renamed The Trump Organization. He rose to public prominence after a number of successful real estate deals in Manhattan and New York City, and his company now owns and develops lodging and golf courses around the world. Trump partly or completely owned several beauty pageants between 1996 and 2015. He has marketed his name to many building projects and commercial products. Trump's unsuccessful business ventures have included several casino and hotel bankruptcies, the folding of his New Jersey Generals football team, and the now-defunct Trump University.

After being inaugurated as U.S. President in January 2017, Trump resigned all management roles within The Trump Organization, and delegated company management to his sons Donald Jr. and Eric,^[1] in response to concerns about conflicts of interest. Trump retained his financial stake in the business.^[2]

 

^{I found this information in 2 seconds. Donald Trump took over the family business and was very successful on his own. And he IS THE President of this nation as he was duly elected. I know your feeling were hurt when Hillary lost, but you have been brainwashed against Trump. He has given us a tax cut, a booming economy with many businesses and job flowing back into America giving Americans more opportunities for their own success. He has given us a supreme court judge that basis his legal decisions on the Constitution and not of some foreign law like those that Obama put in.} 

 

^{We suffered through 8 years of Obama and Hillary tearing our country down and selling us out, now you need to see what he is doing right and give the man a chance, but no one on the left have done so from day one. And too many Americans have been brainwashed and told by the mainstream media what to think and say. Our economy is doing a 4% GDP growth and under Obama it was only a 1.2% growth.} 

Trump is pro life, so if you are calling yourself a Christian, you need to consider that as God gives life and through the Democrat supported Planned Parenthood, they take life. There is not womens health care provided at Planned Parenthood, only abortions! 

But never in the history of our nation has one man been so attacked, mocked, belittled and harassed. Even his wife and children are being threatened by some on the left. Are you proud to count yourself among those?? And by the way, you did not answer my question. You only went into your ridiculous claim that he is not the President when in fact he is!

The problem here is, is that Trump is a wealthy man that has not been bought out by the political establishment and they can not control him. Those (which are many) are a part of a group that want a New World Order with one government and one religion and Trump poses a threat to their plans so they have been slandering him as soon as he threw his hat in the ring. He was mocked by those in hollywood and those in the media. And this is the same Trump that has been talking about how our government was selling our country and jobs down the river through several terrible trade deals. Trump is renegotiating those trade deals and now jobs and industry is coming back into our country and bringing wealth back into our nation, but nothing good that he has done is good enough for the brainwashed and the leftist politicians. So if the left (Democrats) can impeach Trump, they think they can get their plans back on track. 

Have you heard of anything good that Trump has done, or are you only listening to the media and believing every lie they say??? Think about it!!

 

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, ayin jade said:

You really should not be going on about poor discernment. I have at least twice seen you on these forums accusing someone of being a troll or not being saved or having a secret agenda, and it turned out that you were wrong. Yet you claimed that you knew this because of discernment.

After seeing you quickly proclaim intentions of other folks WITHOUT any proof, based on your feelings, your "discernment", I have learned to take what you say with a grain of salt. Just like the bible tells us to.

Will you please tell me what is a troll.    I have the feeling its not those things that legend said lived under bridges .  So what is a troll exactly . 

[Guest shiloh357]

4 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Will you please tell me what is a troll.    I have the feeling its not those things that legend said lived under bridges .  So what is a troll exactly . 

In Internet slang, a troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll