Why so much disagreement on the start of THE DAY?

[iamlamad]

5 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Only 2 advents of Christ coming in all of scripture .

 

This is simply not true: the truth is, you have SEEN only two. In fact, there will be three. He will come FOR His saints and then 7 plus years later come WITH His saints.

[iamlamad]

13 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

satan ,man of sin ,anti christ,what ever name you choose to call him,comes first,period.

What you do with Matt 24,did Christ not say He comes after the tribulation?

And I really don't know how you twisting Paul's word

Not twisting - rather it is understanding. Yes, OF COURSE He comes after the trib - but that coming is WITH His saints. Your preconceived glasses have prevented you from seeing His previous coming FOR His saints - Paul's rapture. Go back and study 1 Thes. 4 & 5.

[n2thelight]

54 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

You can be wrong of you choose to be - and it seems you have chosen. You have misunderstood Paul. It is as simple as that.  If I were you I would camp out on 1 thes. 4 & 5 for a few months: meditate on it! Paul's rapture will come before the start of the Day of the Lord (6th seal) and before the 70th week (7th seal start).

Paul says we gather after,Christ says He comes after,do tell what part I'm I missing 

[iamlamad]

Just now, n2thelight said:

Paul says we gather after,Christ says He comes after,do tell what part I'm I missing 

You only imagine Paul said that. I told you, camp out on 1 thes. 4 & 5.

Question: in 2 thes. 2 verse 3b: is the man of sin revealed or not revealed in Paul's argument?

Edited September 12, 2018 by iamlamad

[n2thelight]

56 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

This is simply not true: the truth is, you have SEEN only two. In fact, there will be three. He will come FOR His saints and then 7 plus years later come WITH His saints.

He comes with those who have died in Him,not because of some rapture,those alive are changed to like those He brings.

[n2thelight]

2 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

You only imagine Paul said that. I told you, camp out on 1 thes. 4 & 5.

Question: in 2 thes. 2 verse 3b: is the man of sin revealed or not revealed in Paul's argument?

Christ will not return until after the man of sin is revealed 

[n2thelight]

That day shall not come,what day?

Our gathering back to Christ, that's the subject.

[n2thelight]

satan pretending to be Christ is the tribulation, you all look at the tribulation as death and destruction, physically, but it's not

Did Christ not tell us to not fear those who can kill the body?

Not understanding the tribulation is the biggest problem 

[n2thelight]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

This is simply not true: the truth is, you have SEEN only two. In fact, there will be three. He will come FOR His saints and then 7 plus years later come WITH His saints.

Actually I've seen neither one, however it's only 2 written of in scripture 

[Alan Hales]

1 hour ago, n2thelight said:

satan ,man of sin ,anti christ,what ever name you choose to call him,comes first,period.

What you do with Matt 24,did Christ not say He comes after the tribulation?

And I really don't know how you twisting Paul's word

If you knew the Bible, You would know that the Church HAS to go [And IT DOES GO] before the Anti-Christ can come. I have given you Biblical proof of the fact.

Where does Mat 24 say the Church goes through the tribulation??. Jesus is talking to the Jews in Matt 24. Vs 29--31 is the physical coming of Jesus NOT the rapture, Please note, The Angels gather God's people, V 31. Whereas at the  pre-trib rapture, Jesus comes for His people,

Jn 14: 2--3. 1 Thess 4: 14--17.

In relation to the coming great tribulation period, Jesus told us to watch and pray that we'll escape  it and be with Him. Lk 21: 36. And Paul said we aren't appointed to the coming tribulation  1 Thess 5: 9. So you can see it's you who twists Paul's And Jesus words.