Serious Sin

[kari21]

It seems today it's all about Gods love and nothing about His wrath. People go away with the impression that God is this great grandather type in the sky who just winks at their sin and will allow everyone into heaven, with or without going through Christ.

People need to remember that God does not change...He's the same God from the OT...He still feels the same way about sin.......

when was the last time you have seen a child of a christian parent incur the wrath of his father for doing wrong and his father destroyed him??

God will not destroy his children over sin.

Ummmm, there is a BIG difference between a human father also guilty of sinning, and God who cannot bear to even look upon sin as man does.

"You are of purer eyes than to behold evil, and cannot look on wickedness..." (Habakkuk 1:13)

To even compare sinful mans standards to God's, is a terrible error.

This is the same God who will punish sinners with an ETERNITY in hell. When was the last time you saw a Christian parent ground their kids for life?

Not really a big difference. God won't destroy a child of God, and for certain God is not going to send his child to hell for eternity. That would mean christs sacrifice was for nothing if he did.

Only one who has accepted Christ is a child of God. What you are doing is called idolatry. You are creating God in YOUR image. (what YOU want God to BE. Not who God actually IS.)

You CANNOT compare God to a human being. Gods ways are not our ways, or His thoughts our thoughts.

[damo1]

from damo1

sin is sin no matter how one looks at it yet you can not blame god for what goes on as well as many try to

james1 1=4

james a bond servant of god and of the lord jesus christ to the twelve tribes which are scatterd abroad grettings my brethren count it all joy when you fal into al varius trials knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience but let patience have its perfect work that you may be perfect and complete lacking nothing

mature enough to understand temptation

james 1 12=17

blessed is the man who enduers temptation for when he has been approved he wil receive the crown of life which the lord has promised to those who love him let no one say when he is tempted i am tempted by god for god cannot not be tempted by evil nor does he him self tempt any one

but each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires has conceived enticed then when desire has conceived it gives birth to sin when it is full frown brings forth death do not be deceived brethren every good gift and every perfect gift is from above and comes down from the father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning

god wants us to be mature about this he wants us to see that what we do is of our own undoing many also blame the devil for what goes on also in ther lives people always says the devil temps me to do this there are these thoughts in my head all the time and i can do nothing about it and then there are some that blame god or say i am not worthy enough sin is sin no matter how you look at it and the bible give us guidance on how to live the christian life

from damo1

[Eliyahuw]

Only one who has accepted Christ is a child of God.

Did you not see that is exactly what i said to begin with!??

What you are doing is called idolatry. You are creating God in YOUR image. (what YOU want God to BE. Not who God actually IS.)

No i'm not. Just read the bible. Starting with Gen 1 when he created adam and eve. He didn't destroy them. he treated them as his children.

You CANNOT compare God to a human being.

Oh sure i can. you see, were created in his Image! So he is just like us in many ways! When he says were created in his image that means we look, sound, think, feel, talk, like him.

Gods ways are not our ways, or His thoughts our thoughts.

How do you know! has he come down and disclosed his thoughts to you, or his ways?? I know what he said in his word, but yes my thoughts and my ways are like Gods. They used to not be, before i was saved, but now their like his.

YOu know, God is not some mysterious boogie man that we have to cower in fear of. That is a lie that the churches use to force submission. What God wants (note i am you know knowing his thoughts), WHAT God wants is not a forced submission of fear but what he wants is a cheerful, glad, joyous running to him to be embraced in him.

I look at him as my daddy, you look at him as this fearsome boogie man. Who is the idoloter??

[kari21]

What you are doing is called idolatry. You are creating God in YOUR image. (what YOU want God to BE. Not who God actually IS.)

No i'm not. Just read the bible. Starting with Gen 1 when he created adam and eve. He didn't destroy them. he treated them as his children.

"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28. (That would be GOD)

You CANNOT compare God to a human being.

Oh sure i can. you see, were created in his Image! So he is just like us in many ways! When he says were created in his image that means we look, sound, think, feel, talk, like him.

God is spirit. Are you?

"Since God is spirit, he does not have a body. By nature, God must be an incorporeal being, and not be limited to existing within a certain size and shape. It should pointed out that the scripture says God is spirit, not that he has a spirit. Since he is spirit, he lacks parts or a body, entirely.

Jesus himself defined what spirit is

[Guest thejjman]

This really awesome. Sin seperates us from the Lord. Thanx lots of love JJ

[Guest thejjman]

This really awesome. Sin seperates us from the Lord. Thanx lots of love JJ

[tsth]

Romans 6:13

13 Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Pilgrim7]

All sin is serious for it is rebellion against God and His word. God sees not as man sees. Disobedience is disobedience, outright rejection of God's revealed will,whether large or small. Sin hardens the heart and makes it easier to sin the next time. This grieves the Holy Spirit and if not forsaken and repented of will lead one into delusion and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

After repentance and conversion, one has a war to wage against sin, the world and the devil. He has all the armor of God, all the power of God to vanquish sin and live righteously and soberly in this world. Because of this He is to do as God directs:

2Cor 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound ?

6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein

6:3 Don't you know, that as many of us who were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

It would seem that Paul and the Holy Spirit who inspired him disagree with much of 'professed christianity' today as does John:

1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

2:5 But whoso keeps his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby we knowthat we are in him.

2:6 He that says he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

We are to walk even as He walked, live even as He lived, obey the Fathers will even as He did for we are dead, if converted and Christ is to live His life in us who did no sin, according to Scripture.

Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Ga 2:18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

Ga 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

Ga 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Thus to say that we can't overcome sin, is to lay the sin to the charge of Jesus who lives in the believer. This is blasphemy to the greatest degree. Jesus lives His life of righteousness and holiness in the True believer, He does not lead into sin. This is the Gospel of Christ, the true Gospel taught by Paul and the Apostles.

God Bless,

Dennis

[Eddie B]

Didn't want this thread to get offtrack. Here is the original post:

You Don't Have to Lose an Arm and a Leg

Matthew 18:7

7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! 8 If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.

Have you ever really thought about how radical Jesus' statement was?

How about the very first one? What does the world have to do with it?

James 4:4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Are we making friendships with the world that are causing us to turn from God? Are we partaking of the things of this world that are causing us to stumble? Do we expose ourselves to things that cause offenses?

Do we dare examine ourselves to see? And then what?

Radical Remedy

Sever/Separate

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

15 Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.

Where do your affections lie?

2 Corinthians 6:11 O Corinthians! We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open. 12 You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections. 13 Now in return for the same (I speak as to children), you also be open. 14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you* are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people."+ 17 Therefore "Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you."* 18 "I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty."*

Are you willing to cut off the things which cause you to sin?

alcohol

porn/computer

drugs

bad company

adulterous affair

hatred

???

Get Rid of Them!!!

Does it sound radical? Read Matthew 18 again. It could be worse!

In His Love,

Suzanne

If you are Christs you are forever Gods child, but you must depart from sinful living and God will enable you to do so by his grace, through harsh discipline if nessasary. If you are not his child he doesn't discipline you and you are forever lost.

1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Heb 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

Heb 12:4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

Heb 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Heb 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Heb 12:12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;

Heb 12:13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Heb 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

Heb 12:16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

Heb 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

Heb 12:19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:

Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

Heb 12:21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

[tsth]

Amen Eddie.

Thank you for posting that.

In His Love,

Suzanne