NathWChristian Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2019 Hi guys 1 Timothy 2:11-15 says women should be quiet. Does it mean that women can't write books about christ or women can't have a youtube channel about bible teachings? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2019 Women are instructed to be quiet when it would be out of order or disruptive not to be quiet. See many of Corre ten Boom's Books and online youtube testimonies. (she went to 63 countries sharing her testimony of God's Love learned in her time in the concentration camps in nazi germany during the war. Also see Marabel Morgan, Elizabeth Elliott, and Jesse Penn'Lewis were good testimonies of Jesus. Most on tv are not even close to right. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, NathWChristian said: Hi guys 1 Timothy 2:11-15 says women should be quiet. Does it mean that women can't write books about christ or women can't have a youtube channel about bible teachings? Thanks These verses deal with a woman not usurping authority over that of a man's in the church. The Lord is desirous of His hand-maidens sharing every aspect of the gospel with others. God bless! Shalom, David/BeauJangles 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2019 The best Bible teacher alive just happens to be a woman.....catch her on You Tube.....Renee Roland.....modern day Judaizers should steer clear .....you will not “ get” her and you will not like her......True Christians will love her..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, NathWChristian said: Hi guys 1 Timothy 2:11-15 says women should be quiet. Does it mean that women can't write books about christ or women can't have a youtube channel about bible teachings? Thanks It does not mean women should not speak. It means that women should not be pastors or deacons. Women have their place in the church. They can teach a Bible study or a children's Sunday School. They can teach at a vacation Bible school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joulre2abba Posted April 6, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 463 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, NathWChristian said: Hi guys 1 Timothy 2:11-15 says women should be quiet. Does it mean that women can't write books about christ or women can't have a youtube channel about bible teachings? Thanks Cognate: 2271 hēsyxía (from hēsyxos, "quiet, stillness") – quietness, implying calm; for the believer, 2271 (hēsyxía) is used of their God-produced calm which includes an inner tranquility that supports appropriate action. This term "does not mean speechlessness, which is more directly indicated by 4602 (sigḗ) (J. Thayer). See 2272 (hēsyxios). 1 Pet.3:4 "..but from the inner disposition of your heart, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in God’s sight." In Mat.11:29 Jesus said "..for I am gentle and humble in heart." So speaking calmly and gently is not necessarily a gender issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted April 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 953 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,589 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,056 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, NathWChristian said: Hi guys 1 Timothy 2:11-15 says women should be quiet. Does it mean that women can't write books about christ or women can't have a youtube channel about bible teachings? Thanks Hi, The letter called 1 Timothy is fairly short, reading it in it's brief entirety, as though looking over the shoulder of Timothy as he first read it will net one a much better understanding. Ignore the verse numbering and chapter separations completely, just read it as a letter would be read. Learning as much a is possible about the church there and the"problem" facing it will also be of help in understanding the reason for Paul's authoring his desires to Timothy for the benefit of the Ephesus church. There is also guidance and warning to that church at the book of Revelation. Plus there is the following from Titus regarding women that hould put the errant conclusion about women not being allowed to teach to rest. A brief excerpt from that short Book of the Bible reads: But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine. Older men are to be sober-minded, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith, in love, and in steadfastness. Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled. Reciting a phrase from a sentence numbered as a verse within a passage of a full book of the Bible often leads to serious abuse and misuse of the meaning being communicated by the human author under inspiration of God. Thanks for posting as it gave me interest in using the question to do a little evening review for my own benefit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Willa Posted April 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,658 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: It does not mean women should not speak. It means that women should not be pastors or deacons. Women have their place in the church. They can teach a Bible study or a children's Sunday School. They can teach at a vacation Bible school. Rom 16:1 NOW I introduce and commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deaconess of the church at Cenchreae, Rom 16:2 That you may receive her in the Lord [with a Christian welcome], as saints (God's people) ought to receive one another. And help her in whatever matter she may require assistance from you, for she has been a helper of many including myself [shielding us from suffering]. King Jimmy uses the word "servant" which is the translation of deacon. "G1249 (Strong) διάκονος diakonos dee-ak'-on-os Probably from διάκω diakō (obsolete, to run on errands; compare G1377); an attendant, that is, (generally) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specifically a Christian teacher and pastor (technically a deacon or deaconess): - deacon, minister, servant." Female pastors should serve under a male pastor and supervise women and children's programs, counsel women and teach them to be good wives and parents. Otherwise, deaconesses help with greeting, preparing communion and other chores caring for the church. All should be prepared to share the gospel should the opportunity present itself in the process of carrying out their other duties. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2019 As Christians, we are a kingdom of priests. 1 Peter 2:3-9 Revelation 1:6 Revelation 5:10 Until everyone steps up to perform their ministries, we are short handed. Whenever men failed to step up in God's plan in the past... women filled the void. Prophetess Deborah The women at the tomb of Christ etc. I used to be firmly in the camp that women could not preach or teach men. I could argue from Judges 4 to Revelation 2 on the subject and I used to let women preachers have it (socking it to them with scriptures). Then the Holy Spirit impressed upon me this thought... "So it would be better that the Gospel does not get out at all than that a woman teaches or preaches to a man?" I was undone. Here I was hindering the Gospel over a technicality that was only for an ideal situation that many if not most men in the Body Christian were involved in their unique personal ministry according to the calling of God and his spiritual gifts lavished upon us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 6, 2019 Granted there are a lot of people who claim to be Christians that are essentially out to reinvent the faith... claiming only parts of the Bible are the word of God or are true... that Paul's "hatred of women" ← notice any opposition is labeled as hatred... is of the ancient world and modern thinking outshines those old antiquated ways of valuing women... I once shared how the Holy Spirit opened my eyes on the subject with a woman preacher and her male subordinate wrote back that it was only a matter of small minded thinking that people had problems with women preachers. So, I just let the subject drop for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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