loverofhumanity Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2019 Hi everyone. I’m new here and I thank you for having me. Sometimes I get some really hard questions asked of me because I defend and uphold the Bible. I’ve bought commentaries and looked online but sometimes people are the best resource so I came here. I’m not a Christian but I believe in Jesus that He was of God and the Bible is the Word of God so is it still alright if I ask a question as it will help me defend the Bible better? So im courteously asking if it’s alright first as I don’t want to upset or offend anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, loverofhumanity said: Hi everyone. I’m new here and I thank you for having me. Sometimes I get some really hard questions asked of me because I defend and uphold the Bible. I’ve bought commentaries and looked online but sometimes people are the best resource so I came here. I’m not a Christian but I believe in Jesus that He was of God and the Bible is the Word of God so is it still alright if I ask a question as it will help me defend the Bible better? So im courteously asking if it’s alright first as I don’t want to upset or offend anyone. Welcome to the forum, You will have to check wioth the moderators of this forum about how long you can post here. I am interested in the contradiction in your views. You say you believe that Jesus is of God, yet you are not a Christian. Do you have a reason for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loverofhumanity Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) I need to consult with Christians if they can assist me as they have a lot of knowledge. I don’t belong to any Christian organisation but I would hopefully sacrifice my life for Jesus if required to do so. Edited May 30, 2019 by loverofhumanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyLouse Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 268 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/30/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/2004 Share Posted May 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Who me said: Welcome to the forum, You will have to check wioth the moderators of this forum about how long you can post here. I am interested in the contradiction in your views. You say you believe that Jesus is of God, yet you are not a Christian. Do you have a reason for this? A person can believe as loverofhumanity wrote and yet not accept that the atoning sacrifice of Jesus is sufficient for salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyLouse Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 268 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/30/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/2004 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, loverofhumanity said: I need to consult with Christians if they can assist me as they have a lot of knowledge. I don’t belong to any Christian organisation but I would hopefully sacrifice my life for Jesus if required to do so. Well here's the problem loverofhumanity, there is no need to sacrifice yourself for Jesus. The Bible states that sinners need to make atonement for their sins. However, a sinner cannot atone for their sin. It also states that we have all sinned and therefore we all need atonement. Atonement simply means that we have reconciliation with God. Now Jesus' sacrifice was the ultimate sacrifice and we should all be so very grateful for it. However, He only asks one thing for our salvation and that is to believe that His sacrifice did indeed take away our sin so that we can be reconciled to God. One other minor point that you will want to remember is that Jesus wasn't merely "of" God... He "is" God. Edited May 30, 2019 by NickyLouse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, loverofhumanity said: Hi everyone. I’m new here and I thank you for having me. Sometimes I get some really hard questions asked of me because I defend and uphold the Bible. I’ve bought commentaries and looked online but sometimes people are the best resource so I came here. I’m not a Christian but I believe in Jesus that He was of God and the Bible is the Word of God so is it still alright if I ask a question as it will help me defend the Bible better? So im courteously asking if it’s alright first as I don’t want to upset or offend anyone. You believe in Jesus Christ and you are not a Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loverofhumanity Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 I am just a humble servant of the Lord here to ask if any kind Christian can advise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydog1976 Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 626 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 360 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, loverofhumanity said: I am just a humble servant of the Lord here to ask if any kind Christian can advise me. Ok as a Christian I am confused here. You say you are a servant of the Lord yet you are not a Christian. You can't be both. You cannot truly be a servant of the Lord until you confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of your life. The other thing that confuses me to is that you state you want to better defend God's Word when you haven't truly accepted that all of it is true. If you accept that all of it is true then you should have no issues trusting in Christ as your Savior and thus you would be a Christian. You can't truly defend God's Word unless you fully accept it 100% and you strive to live by it. Part of that living by it is stepping in obedience and trusting Christ as your Savior. I think unless this has taken place it is difficult to truly help you defend God's Word. I think that is the consensus of most of us here on this post trying to answer your question(s). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loverofhumanity Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 Of course Jesus is my Lord and Saviour but I’m not a member of any Christian organisation as I side with Jesus and the Bible not any denomination. That way I can accept the truth as I understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted May 30, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, NickyLouse said: A person can believe as loverofhumanity wrote and yet not accept that the atoning sacrifice of Jesus is sufficient for salvation. I am not suggesting they can't believe it, only that it is unreasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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