abuse of immigrant children

[ayin jade]

Consider this. 

Illegals are told, encouraged, given maps etc to cross the border illegally. How many have died crossing? Last year 127 illegals died in the arizona desert that we know of (remains recovered). 

Build the wall. Then they will not cross that way in the vast numbers they are crossing now. Lives will be saved.

[Neighbor]

48 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

People do indeed have the right to come to the US and seek asylum

Unfortunately it hasn't always worked well. And still doesn't!  See https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/

Nonetheless countries do need political sovereignty as granted by God, even the USA.

 On the one hand Nancy Pelosi was right, we need immigrants! For no one else will change our beds, and wash our dirty dishes, nor clean our toilets,  Just as she declared was the problem for us.

Wee are too spoiled a highly privileged group to do labor ourselves, especially in the services industry. On the other hand Nacy Pelosi wants a crisis and refuses to allow a solution  for those stacked up fleeing oppression and/or just seeking what to them is good opportunity  to work, - in the USA.

The problem is a direct politically inspired event. Doesn't matter whether one is a Christian or not. Those that  call conservative Christanity a bunch of Bible totting gunslingers and a basket of deplorables also wants children stacked up on the borders of this land. They do not want a solution, nor any good resolution for the oppressed. For if they were just allowed in they could not feed them with their New Deal of Lyndon Johnson nor any  fderal program started since then. 

Sorry but one cannot successfully say, I am not a Republican nor a Democrat, I am a Christian. That doe snot exemption anyone in fact it heightens responsibility to be a Chrsitain for a Christian knows this is spiritual warfare going on. In this warfare one unfortunately has to live in this world, not as one of it so much as one in it. Being in it forces responsibility on Christians to participate and to act within the confines of governments, and governmental limitations placed upon it's citizens and occupants.  God has established government. Government has established responsibilities, and there is a real political fight going on as part of the spiritual warfare.

I'd love to ignore it all, really wanted to this last federal election, but at the end I was led to the realization that is not an option that honors my service to my God, my creator Jesus, as I am led by God the Holy Spirit. Ignoring or denying it instead becomes a personal denial of reality that I need face. It is a hard one. I do not like the various Trump plans so much, but what else can be done with the resistance movement the one against God and godly behavior by the alliance that has in effect become the Demoncrat political party.

 

[ayin jade]

4 hours ago, heavensflower said:

I hope America can get a new president with the upcoming election. We need someone with compassion. We need a democrat. 

Democrats encourage illegals to come here in the huge numbers they are doing so at this time. Which is why there is overcrowding. 

We need the wall. We need to avoid electing a democrat.

There was no compassion under our last democrat president. There will be none in any future democrat.

[Neighbor]

14 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Consider this. 

Illegals are told, encouraged, given maps etc to cross the border illegally. How many have died crossing? Last year 127 illegals died in the arizona desert that we know of (remains recovered). 

Build the wall. Then they will not cross that way in the vast numbers they are crossing now. Lives will be saved.

However creating a wall is a pretty expensive way to try to save a life , and also leave that life suffering where they are, in place under dictatorial oppression of other kinds, both religious oppression of Rome and national oppression of Communism.

Every customer of a drug salesman is responsible for the nasty ones that come into the land. They the customers that create the demand for the product need to be punished for being a customer of drug dealers. Instead they are coddled and treated to  free substitute drugs when they are hurting.

There are hard choices in life.  In spiritual warfare there are many to be made,by every warrior,  or lose the battle.

[ayin jade]

4 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

However creating a wall is a pretty expensive way to try to save a life , and also leave that life suffering where they are, in place under dictatorial oppression of other kinds, both religious oppression of Rome and national oppression of Communism.

 

For years mexican govt has encouraged people to cross into the us illegally, even going so far as to offer apps that show them how to cross. Putting out maps etc. The us has signs all over the place telling them its dangerous to cross, but they are repeatedly told it isnt dangerous. Since our govt hasnt been able to stop the crossing or even slow it down, putting up a wall is a viable option.

California politicians want to open the borders, yet they have a wall. Why cant my state have a wall too? 

[LadyKay]

19 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Democrats encourage illegals to come here in the huge numbers they are doing so at this time.

Who told you this? 

[ayin jade]

2 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Who told you this? 

Look at the words of the politicians themselves. The democrat politicians have openly stated so.

[The_Patriot21]

Ok, first off, what percentage of children are abused to government officials? And what do you call abuse?

I like how you blame Trump. When in reality, the policy of putting the kids in these camps was a Clinton era policy, and every president sense has done it.

And what is your solution? Other then completely open borders, there is only two options...send them to jail with their parents, or put them in these camps until it gets sorted out where to send them.

[LadyKay]

2 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Look at the words of the politicians themselves. The democrat politicians have openly stated so.

Can you give me a name or names?   

[missmuffet]

This is a good article to read:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/26/border-patrol-hungry-migrant-children-texas-clint-trump-republicans-mexico-parents/1568151001/

Edited July 7, 2019 by missmuffet