ilovejcsog Posted August 6, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 94 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 66 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/21/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 6, 2019 Seems to be a really tough question. So many different opinions. I am always concerned about those left out without a choice to be Gods. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adstar Posted August 6, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 I believe in predestination.. But predestination derived from God Foreknowing every individuals personal response to His revealed Will... I totally reject the version of predestination that says that God creates one person to be mind controlled by Him to accept His will as a saved zombie like being and God creating another person to serve no other purpose but to burn in the eternal lake of fire.. 8 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post missmuffet Posted August 6, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2019 God knows before we are born if we will be written in the book of life. He knows of the person who will reject Him and will not be spending an eternity in heaven. God gives everyone an opportunity to be saved and go to heaven. We all have a choice where we want to spend our eternity. God does not reject anyone who believes in Him. 5 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovejcsog Posted August 6, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 94 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 66 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/21/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Adstar said: I believe in predestination.. But predestination derived from God Foreknowing every individuals personal response to His revealed Will... I totally reject the version of predestination that says that God creates one person to be mind controlled by Him to accept His will as a saved zombie like being and God creating another person to serve no other purpose but to burn in the eternal lake of fire.. I hadn't heard that version. Thank you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted August 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 6, 2019 NO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure of eighty Posted October 7, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,558 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 872 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 1:47 AM, missmuffet said: God knows before we are born if we will be written in the book of life. He knows of the person who will reject Him and will not be spending an eternity in heaven. God gives everyone an opportunity to be saved and go to heaven. We all have a choice where we want to spend our eternity. God does not reject anyone who believes in Him. I agree with this. God knows all he knows who will come and who wont. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted October 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted October 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Figure of eighty said: I agree with this. God knows all he knows who will come and who wont. Yep. He certainly does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alive Posted October 7, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 God believes in predestination. :-) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneLight Posted October 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 Let's look at scripture to determine what is meant. Romans 8:28-30 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. In verse 29 we read that God "foreknew" - which shows me that He knew before we were born who would accept His salvation, not by reassignment, but by choice - which is Love in the finest Verse 29 also states that those whom He knew would accept His salvation, "He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son". In verse 30 we read the steps He works out in our life: whom He predestined He also called whom He called, these He also justified whom He justified, these He also glorified All this point to the reasoning behind the promise found in verse 29 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. Too many people have a false belief that we have absolutely no choice in the matter. I suggest we do, otherwise, why would God send His Son to pay the price for our sin and then add in conditions found in John 3:16-17? For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravindran Posted October 7, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 398 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 12:04 AM, ilovejcsog said: Seems to be a really tough question. So many different opinions. I am always concerned about those left out without a choice to be Gods. Everyone in believes in predestination. Calvinists (Reformed) and Arminians have a different definition of predestination! I have a Reformed view on predestination. Yes, we all need to be concerned about those left out. We need to pray and evangelize. There is no question about that. It does not change irrespective of one's view on predestination. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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